[Openstack-operators] Ops Community Documentation - first anchor point

Melvin Hillsman mrhillsman at gmail.com
Thu May 24 05:26:02 UTC 2018

Great to see this moving. I have some questions/concerns based on your
statement Doug about docs.openstack.org publishing and do not want to
detour the conversation but ask for feedback. Currently there are a number
of repositories under osops-


Generally active:

Probably dead:

Because you are more familiar with how things work, is there a way to
consolidate these vs coming up with another repo like osops-docs or
whatever in this case? And second, is there already governance clearance to
publish based on the following - https://launchpad.net/osops - which is
where these repos originated.

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:56 PM, Frank Kloeker <eumel at arcor.de> wrote:

> Hi Chris,
> thanks for summarize our session today in Vancouver. As I18n PTL and one
> of the Docs Core I put Petr in Cc. He is currently Docs PTL, but
> unfortunatelly not on-site.
> I couldn't also not get the full history of the story and that's also not
> the idea to starting finger pointing. As usualy we moving forward and there
> are some interesting things to know what happened.
> First of all: There are no "Docs-Team" anymore. If you look at [1] there
> are mostly part-time contributors like me or people are more involved in
> other projects and therefore busy. Because of that, the responsibility of
> documentation content are moved completely to the project teams. Each repo
> has a user guide, admin guide, deployment guide, and so on. The small
> Documentation Team provides only tooling and give advices how to write and
> publish a document. So it's up to you to re-use the old repo on [2] or
> setup a new one. I would recommend to use the best of both worlds. There
> are a very good toolset in place for testing and publishing documents.
> There are also various text editors for rst extensions available, like in
> vim, notepad++ or also online services. I understand the concerns and when
> people are sad because their patches are ignored for months. But it's
> alltime a question of responsibilty and how can spend people time.
> I would be available for help. As I18n PTL I could imagine that a
> OpenStack Operations Guide is available in different languages and portable
> in different formats like in Sphinx. For us as translation team it's a good
> possibility to get feedback about the quality and to understand the
> requirements, also for other documents.
> So let's move on.
> kind regards
> Frank
> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/30,members
> [2] https://github.com/openstack/operations-guide
> Am 2018-05-24 03:38, schrieb Chris Morgan:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> In the Ops Community documentation working session today in Vancouver,
>> we made some really good progress (etherpad here:
>> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-Ops-Community-Docs but not all of
>> the good stuff is yet written down).
>> In short, we're going to course correct on maintaining the Operators
>> Guide, the HA Guide and Architecture Guide, not edit-in-place via the
>> wiki and instead try still maintaining them as code, but with a
>> different, new set of owners, possibly in a new Ops-focused repo.
>> There was a strong consensus that a) code workflow >> wiki workflow
>> and that b) openstack core docs tools are just fine.
>> There is a lot still to be decided on how where and when, but we do
>> have an offer of a rewrite of the HA Guide, as long as the changes
>> will be allowed to actually land, so we expect to actually start
>> showing some progress.
>> At the end of the session, people wanted to know how to follow along
>> as various people work out how to do this... and so for now that place
>> is this very email thread. The idea is if the code for those documents
>> goes to live in a different repo, or if new contributors turn up, or
>> if a new version we will announce/discuss it here until such time as
>> we have a better home for this initiative.
>> Cheers
>> Chris
>> --
>> Chris Morgan <mihalis68 at gmail.com>
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Kind regards,

Melvin Hillsman
mrhillsman at gmail.com
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