[Openstack-operators] [OpenStack-docs] [doc] Operations Guide removal

Yuki Kasuya yu-kasuya at kddi-research.jp
Tue Aug 22 05:11:17 UTC 2017


Hi Chris,

Thank you for creating lots of wiki pages! I'll check of them.

Best regards,
Yuki

On 8/19/17 06:04, Chris Morgan wrote:
> I have just completed loading the files into the wiki for perusal. You
> can see the files here in my contrib list
> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Cmorgan2
>
> I have not fixed the contents page (which was blank) nor made forward
> and back links so that you can go from one to the next page. This just
> allows us to see how the conversion output looks right now. I am aware
> we may need to redo all this. Please take a look!
>
> Chris
>
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 9:07 PM, Yuki Kasuya <yu-kasuya at kddi-research.jp
> <mailto:yu-kasuya at kddi-research.jp>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Chris,
>
>     Attached is all converting files under
>     "openstack-manuals/doc/ops-guide/source".
>
>     Best regards,
>     Yuki
>
>     On 8/15/17 03:15, Chris Morgan wrote:
>
>         I have privileges to edit wiki pages on openstack.org
>         <http://openstack.org>
>         <http://openstack.org> so you could send me a few converted pages
>         (perhaps ones that link to each other) and I could upload them
>         and we
>         can all look at the result and see if we like it. Happy to do that.
>
>         Chris
>
>         On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 9:44 PM, Yuki Kasuya
>         <yu-kasuya at kddi-research.jp <mailto:yu-kasuya at kddi-research.jp>
>         <mailto:yu-kasuya at kddi-research.jp
>         <mailto:yu-kasuya at kddi-research.jp>>> wrote:
>
>             Hi,
>
>             How about that if some directives can be ignored (using pandoc),
>             I'll create one new ops-guide page as a example on wiki.
>         After that
>             could you review it ? I don't know any approval to
>         create/edit pages
>             on wiki. Or I can send you converting files. Attached is a
>             converting example.
>             And let's discuss which url is good for new ops-guides like
>         below.
>             Which is good using file name or first header as url of
>         wiki? And
>             which directory is fine?
>
>             https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpsGuide
>         <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpsGuide>
>             <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpsGuide
>         <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpsGuide>> (as index)
>             https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpsGuide/acknowledgements
>         <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpsGuide/acknowledgements>
>             <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpsGuide/acknowledgements
>         <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpsGuide/acknowledgements>>
>             https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpsGuide/app-crypt
>         <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpsGuide/app-crypt>
>             <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpsGuide/app-crypt
>         <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpsGuide/app-crypt>>
>             ...
>
>             Best regards,
>             Yuki
>
>             On 8/12/17 23:38, Chris Morgan wrote:
>
>                 I just got back from the ops meetup in Mexico City and I
>         think I
>                 volunteered to help with this ops guide transition and
>                 maintaining it on
>                 the wiki. So if the current output of the conversion is
>         available
>                 anywhere for review I could try being a proofreader for
>         it. It seems
>                 there is approval to put it as is on the wiki, what does
>         that
>                 require?
>
>                 I am not very familiar with the docs build process so if
>         we are
>                 still
>                 attempting to get a minimally viable conversion I may be
>         able to
>                 help
>                 but will need more time to come up to speed with that.
>
>                 Chris
>
>                 On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Anne Gentle
>                 <annegentle at justwriteclick.com
>         <mailto:annegentle at justwriteclick.com>
>                 <mailto:annegentle at justwriteclick.com
>         <mailto:annegentle at justwriteclick.com>>
>                 <mailto:annegentle at justwriteclick.com
>         <mailto:annegentle at justwriteclick.com>
>                 <mailto:annegentle at justwriteclick.com
>         <mailto:annegentle at justwriteclick.com>>>>
>                 wrote:
>
>                     On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 3:09 AM, Yuki Kasuya
>                     <yu-kasuya at kddi-research.jp
>         <mailto:yu-kasuya at kddi-research.jp>
>                 <mailto:yu-kasuya at kddi-research.jp
>         <mailto:yu-kasuya at kddi-research.jp>>
>                 <mailto:yu-kasuya at kddi-research.jp
>         <mailto:yu-kasuya at kddi-research.jp>
>                 <mailto:yu-kasuya at kddi-research.jp
>         <mailto:yu-kasuya at kddi-research.jp>>>> wrote:
>                     > Hi,
>                     >
>                     >
>                     > On 7/19/17 23:51, Anne Gentle wrote:
>                     >>
>                     >> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:51 AM, Doug Hellmann
>                     <doug at doughellmann.com
>         <mailto:doug at doughellmann.com> <mailto:doug at doughellmann.com
>         <mailto:doug at doughellmann.com>>
>                 <mailto:doug at doughellmann.com
>         <mailto:doug at doughellmann.com> <mailto:doug at doughellmann.com
>         <mailto:doug at doughellmann.com>>>>
>
>                     >> wrote:
>                     >>>
>                     >>> Excerpts from Blair Bethwaite's message of
>         2017-07-19
>                 20:40:25
>                     +1000:
>                     >>>>
>                     >>>> Hi Alex,
>                     >>>>
>                     >>>> I just managed to take a half hour to look at
>         this and
>                 have a few
>                     >>>> questions/comments towards making a plan for how to
>                 proceed with
>                     >>>> moving the Ops Guide content to the wiki...
>                     >>>>
>                     >>>> 1) Need to define wiki location and structure.
>                 Curiously at the
>                     moment
>                     >>>> there is already meta content at
>                     >>>>
>         https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/OpsGuide
>         <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/OpsGuide>
>                 <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/OpsGuide
>         <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/OpsGuide>>
>
>         <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/OpsGuide
>         <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/OpsGuide>
>                 <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/OpsGuide
>         <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/OpsGuide>>>,
>         Maybe the
>                     >>>> content could live at
>                 https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpsGuide
>         <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpsGuide>
>                 <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpsGuide
>         <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpsGuide>>
>                     <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpsGuide
>         <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpsGuide>
>                 <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpsGuide
>         <https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpsGuide>>>? I
>
>                     >>>> think it makes sense to follow the existing
>         structure
>                 with possible
>                     >>>> exception of culling wrong / very-out-of-date
>         content
>                 (but perhaps
>                     >>>> anything like that should be done as a later
>         step and
>                 keep it
>                     simple
>                     >>>> aiming for a "like-for-like" migration to start
>         with)...?
>                     >>>
>                     >>>
>                     >>> Yes, I would recommend moving the existing
>         content and then
>                     making any
>                     >>> major changes to it.
>                     >>>
>                     >>>> 2) Getting the content into the wiki. Looks
>         like there
>                 is no
>                     obvious
>                     >>>> up-to-date RST import functionality for MediaWiki.
>                 Pandoc seems as
>                     >>>> though it might support some useful conversions
>         but I
>                 didn't
>                     try this
>                     >>>> yet and don't have any experience with it - can
>         anyone
>                 say with
>                     >>>> authority whether it is worth pursuing?
>                     >>>
>                     >>>
>                     >>> I can't say with authority myself, but I can
>         refer to
>                 Anne as an
>                     >>> authority. :-)
>                     >>
>                     >>
>                     >> Ha, well, I think Pandoc is the one to try first,
>         let's
>                 say that for
>                     >> starters.
>                     >>
>                     >> Here's what I was thinking:
>                     >> If you're interested in the export, run an experiment
>                 with Pandoc to
>                     >> convert from RST to Mediawiki.
>                     >>
>                     >> http://pandoc.org/demos.html
>                     >>
>                     >> You'll likely still have cleanup but it's a
>         start. Only
>                 convert
>                     >> troubleshooting to start, which gets the most hits:
>                     docs.openstack.org/ <http://docs.openstack.org/>
>         <http://docs.openstack.org/>
>                 <http://docs.openstack.org/>
>
>                     >> ops-guide/ops-network-troubleshooting.html
>                     >> Then see how much you get from Pandoc.
>                     >>
>                     >
>                     > I tried to convert all docs under ops-guide dir using
>                 pandoc. Like below,
>                     > toctree,term and some directives doesn't work after
>                 converting. But, at
>                     > glance, almost fine after converting.
>                     > If you don't mind, I'll able to create wiki pages of
>                 ops-guide.
>                     >
>                     >
>
>         xxx at devstack02:~/work/openstack-manuals/doc/ops-guide/source$ pandoc
>                     > index.rst -t mediawiki -o index
>                     > .wiki
>                     > pandoc: ignoring unknown directive: toctree
>         "source" (line
>                 58, column 1)
>                     > pandoc: ignoring unknown role :term: in "source"
>         (line 20,
>                 column 13)
>                     > pandoc: ignoring unknown role :term: in "source"
>         (line 19,
>                 column 59)
>                     >
>
>                     Fantastic! That's better that I thought it would do,
>         I'll
>                 admit. :)
>                     You may have figured this out, but :term: [1] is for
>                 glossary entries,
>                     and a toctree directive [2] is for a table of contents
>                 insertion.
>
>                     Thanks for testing the theory and making it practical.
>
>                     Anne
>
>                     1.
>         http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/markup/inline.html
>         <http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/markup/inline.html>
>                 <http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/markup/inline.html
>         <http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/markup/inline.html>>
>
>         <http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/markup/inline.html
>         <http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/markup/inline.html>
>                 <http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/markup/inline.html
>         <http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/markup/inline.html>>>
>                     2.
>         http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/markup/toctree.html
>         <http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/markup/toctree.html>
>                 <http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/markup/toctree.html
>         <http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/markup/toctree.html>>
>
>         <http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/markup/toctree.html
>         <http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/markup/toctree.html>
>                 <http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/markup/toctree.html
>         <http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/markup/toctree.html>>>
>
>
>
>                     >>
>                     >> Hope this helps -
>                     >> Anne
>                     >>
>                     >>>
>                     >>>> 3) Future management - obvious can of worms
>         given this
>                 is much better
>                     >>>> addressed by all the tooling and scaffolding
>         the docs
>                 team already
>                     >>>> provides around the repos... but nonetheless some
>                 expectations may
>                     >>>> need to be set upfront to avoid future pain.
>                     >>>
>                     >>>
>                     >>> What sort of issues do you foresee?
>                     >>>
>                     >>> Doug
>                     >>>
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