[Openstack-operators] Hypervisor decision

matt matt at nycresistor.com
Thu Mar 19 16:36:20 UTC 2015


I was under the impression hyper-v didn't charge a per seat license on non
windows instances?

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Fox, Kevin M <Kevin.Fox at pnnl.gov> wrote:

>  So, in the pets vs cattle cloud philosophy, you want to be able to have
> as many cattle as you need, rather then limit the sets to a smaller number
> of more pet like things.
>
> kvm allows unlimited numbers of vm's, which is very cloudy. but due to
> Windows licensing, tends to only work well with linux/bsd VM's.
>
> Windows is a whole nother kettle of fish. They either license it per vm,
> which is very pet like, or alternately, the more cattle friendly way is to
> buy a DataCenter* version of windows.
>
> Each hypervisor needs to be the DataCenter version, but it allows you to
> run unlimited Windows VM's on that hypervisor. So if you want to run lots
> of windows cattle, its can be the way to go.
>
> Due to its high cost, it does not usually make sense to run all your linux
> vm's on Windows DataCenter version, so you run both kvm for linux/bsd vm's
> and Windows DataCenter licensed hyperv for windows vm's.
>
> * http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/about-licensing/virtualization.aspx
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Maish Saidel-Keesing [maishsk at maishsk.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2015 12:19 AM
> *To:* openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Openstack-operators] Hypervisor decision
>
>  That is interesting Tim.
>
> Why Hyper-V if I may ask? Why not stick just with KVM?
>
> Maish
>
> On 19/03/15 08:22, Tim Bell wrote:
>
>  At CERN, we run KVM and Hyper-V. Both work fine.
>
>
>
> Depending on the size of your cluster, you may have other factors to
> consider such as monitoring and configuration management. We use Puppet to
> configure both environnments.
>
>
>
> Images are tagged with a property hypervisor_type which is used to
> schedule workloads to the appropriate hypervisor.
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> *From:* matt [mailto:matt at nycresistor.com <matt at nycresistor.com>]
> *Sent:* 18 March 2015 23:24
> *To:* Abel Lopez
> *Cc:* openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Openstack-operators] Hypervisor decision
>
>
>
> most openstack environments at kvm, so if you want to stick with the herd,
> that's the way to go.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Abel Lopez <alopgeek at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Interesting topic, since you're already running Hyper-v and ESX, I'm
> inferring that your workload is heavy on windows VMs.
> If you're doing majority windows, and minority linux, stick with hyper-v.
> The benchmarks I've read show that windows VMs run fastest on hyper-v VS
> all others.
> If you expect an even split, it might make sense to create Host Aggregates
> of various hypervisiors like hyper-v and KVM, and utilize extra-specs in
> the flavors and guest images to aid in scheduling, for example "Windows
> images launch on the hyper-v pool"
>
>
> > On Mar 18, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Vytenis Silgalis <vsilgalis at outlook.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm looking to champion openstack at my company, we currently run both a
> small hyper-v cluster and 3 VMware clusters.   However we are not married
> to any specific hypervisor.  What I'm looking for is recommendations for
> which hypervisor we should look at for our openstack environments and the
> pros/con's people have run into with the various hypervisors supported by
> openstack.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Vytenis
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