[Openstack-operators] Hypervisor decision

Tim Bell Tim.Bell at cern.ch
Thu Mar 19 08:31:49 UTC 2015


We're running nova network flat (with some CERN specifics for legacy network integration).  We're looking at Neutron but migration will require careful testing.

Tim

From: Ben Hines [mailto:bhines at gmail.com]
Sent: 19 March 2015 09:18
To: Tim Bell
Cc: maishsk+openstack at maishsk.com; openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] Hypervisor decision

Hey Tim,
Which networking mode do you use with Hyper-V? We wanted to us it with nova-network HA mode but found it would not work with that configuration.

Neutron HA-DVR we are considering.

-Ben

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 12:59 AM, Tim Bell <Tim.Bell at cern.ch<mailto:Tim.Bell at cern.ch>> wrote:

We had a Hyper-V based environment previously so the migration to OpenStack was made easier by having Hyper-V also in the cloud.

We also find this avoids a set of driver issues and gives us a single vendor stack when we are reporting problems.

It's good to make sure we keep the correct architecture that the hypervisor is not 'hardcoded' into the infrastructure.

Downside is some additional packaging work but Puppet looks after most of the configuration. In addition, we currently only have volumes with ceph on the KVM base since there is no ceph driver for Windows

We've around 200 Hyper-V hypervisors but the majority (about 3,200) are on KVM.

Tim

From: Maish Saidel-Keesing [mailto:maishsk at maishsk.com<mailto:maishsk at maishsk.com>]
Sent: 19 March 2015 08:19
To: openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org>

Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] Hypervisor decision

That is interesting Tim.

Why Hyper-V if I may ask? Why not stick just with KVM?

Maish
On 19/03/15 08:22, Tim Bell wrote:
At CERN, we run KVM and Hyper-V. Both work fine.

Depending on the size of your cluster, you may have other factors to consider such as monitoring and configuration management. We use Puppet to configure both environnments.

Images are tagged with a property hypervisor_type which is used to schedule workloads to the appropriate hypervisor.

Tim

From: matt [mailto:matt at nycresistor.com]
Sent: 18 March 2015 23:24
To: Abel Lopez
Cc: openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org>
Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] Hypervisor decision

most openstack environments at kvm, so if you want to stick with the herd, that's the way to go.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Abel Lopez <alopgeek at gmail.com<mailto:alopgeek at gmail.com>> wrote:
Interesting topic, since you're already running Hyper-v and ESX, I'm inferring that your workload is heavy on windows VMs.
If you're doing majority windows, and minority linux, stick with hyper-v. The benchmarks I've read show that windows VMs run fastest on hyper-v VS all others.
If you expect an even split, it might make sense to create Host Aggregates of various hypervisiors like hyper-v and KVM, and utilize extra-specs in the flavors and guest images to aid in scheduling, for example "Windows images launch on the hyper-v pool"

> On Mar 18, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Vytenis Silgalis <vsilgalis at outlook.com<mailto:vsilgalis at outlook.com>> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm looking to champion openstack at my company, we currently run both a small hyper-v cluster and 3 VMware clusters.   However we are not married to any specific hypervisor.  What I'm looking for is recommendations for which hypervisor we should look at for our openstack environments and the pros/con's people have run into with the various hypervisors supported by openstack.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Vytenis
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