[Openstack-operators] How to handle updates of public images?

Tim Bell Tim.Bell at cern.ch
Sat Feb 7 18:55:40 UTC 2015


I’d be in favour of this as there are also other use cases where we want to avoid images being used but still want to continue the use of Glance images when there is no need for new images.

Something which would hide, by default, an image from both glance image list and GUIs but allow a ‘show all’ option if needed would be very useful.

I think the implementation would not be too complex too.

Tim

From: Igor Bolotin [mailto:igor_bolotin at symantec40.com]
Sent: 07 February 2015 19:37
To: Tim Bell
Cc: George Shuklin; openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] How to handle updates of public images?

Going back to the idea of archiving images and not allowing launch of new VMs and hiding archived images by default in Horizon/CLI (maybe still can list/show if requested, possibly admin function only). Would it make sense to propose this as a blueprint for the next release?
Best regards,
Igor

On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 5:34 AM, Tim Bell <Tim.Bell at cern.ch<mailto:Tim.Bell at cern.ch>> wrote:
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> From: George Shuklin [mailto:george.shuklin at gmail.com<mailto:george.shuklin at gmail.com>]
> Sent: 05 February 2015 14:10
> To: openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org>
> Subject: [Openstack-operators] How to handle updates of public images?
>
> Hello everyone.
>
> We are updating our public images regularly (to provide them to customers in
> up-to-date state). But there is a problem: If some instance starts from image it
> becomes 'used'. That means:
> * That image is used as _base for nova
> * If instance is reverted this image is used to recreate instance's disk
> * If instance is rescued this image is used as rescue base
> * It is redownloaded during resize/migration (on a new compute node)
>
> One more (our specific):
> We're using raw disks with _base on slow SATA drives (in comparison to fast SSD
> for disks), and if that SATA fails, we replace it (and nova redownloads stuff in
> _base).
>
> If image is deleted, it causes problems with nova (nova can't download _base).
>
> The second part of the problem: glance disallows to update image (upload new
> image with same ID), so we're forced to upload updated image with new ID and
> to remove the old one. This causes problems described above.
> And if tenant boots from own snapshot and removes snapshot without removing
> instance, it causes same problem even without our activity.
>
> How do you handle public image updates in your case?
>

We have a similar problem. For the Horizon based end users, we've defined a panel using image meta data. Details are at http://openstack-in-production.blogspot.ch/2015/02/choosing-right-image.html.

For the CLI users, we propose to use the sort options from Glance to find the latest image of a particular OS.

It would be good if there was a way of marking an image as hidden so that it can still be used for snapshots/migration but would not be shown in image list operations.

> Thanks!
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Igor
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