[Openstack-operators] [Telco][NFV][infra] Review process of TelcoWG use cases

Steve Gordon sgordon at redhat.com
Fri Feb 6 18:41:39 UTC 2015

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Belanger" <paul.belanger at polybeacon.com>
> To: openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:25 AM, George Shuklin
> <george.shuklin at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 02/06/2015 04:12 PM, Steve Gordon wrote:
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>
> >>> From: "George Shuklin" <george.shuklin at gmail.com>
> >>> To: openstack-operators at lists.openstack.org
> >>>
> >>> Sorry guys. I think most of the ops here have no idea what you talking
> >>> about. Telcos is telcos, ops is ops. Different worlds, different
> >>> problems, different terminology.
> >>
> >> Hi George,
> >>
> >> The telco working group is intended to bridge the gap between
> >> telcommunications operators and the openstack community, something we've
> >> been working on in some form since Atlanta. Once you boil away the TLAs
> >> many
> >> of their core requirements are not significantly different for what you
> >> might consider "normal" operators, or at least operators in other
> >> verticals
> >> like high performance computing.
> >>
> >> We primarily communicated on the -dev list prior to Paris but the feedback
> >> we got in the session there (on the operators track no less!) was that
> >> most
> >> people involved were more comfortable communicating in the context of the
> >> operators M/L than mixed in with the development traffic. If certain types
> >> of operators are not welcome in the openstack operators community then I
> >> think that would be a shame.
> >>
> >>
> > I think it not really possible. If you talking about 'openstack' as
> > 'Openstack developers', may be. But for operators all telco stuff is just
> > completely foreign. I do not understand what they doing and I don't need
> > them for my job. Sorry.
> >
> Interesting, I was actually talking for some friends about the
> business of 'telco' and OpenStack recently.  Like some operators have
> indicated, the world of 'telco' is foreign to them but since my
> background come from the VoIP / telco environment I can see where you
> are coming from.
> I'm going to look at your proposal, and see if I can make some
> comments.  But, I am personally interested in this topic, more as a
> FYI.

Right, and on face value many of the use cases are still too far removed in terms of domain specific language, acronyms, etc. from where we want them to be to be broadly understandable and actionable - but we're trying to start somewhere and work on that :).

I think the more broadly applicable/interesting conversation from Marc's original question is how/where are operators coming at OpenStack from other directions documenting their use cases that they ultimately want to drive changes or new features in OpenStack with for community consumption? 



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