<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Ian,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I agree, let’s have a meeting next Tuesday and we can agree on the logistics there.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks,</div><div class="">Ildikó</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 2016. Nov 10., at 19:10, Ian Y. Choi <<a href="mailto:ianyrchoi@gmail.com" class="">ianyrchoi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Ildiko Vancsa wrote on 11/10/2016 4:57
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Hi,
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<div class="">I like the ISO week numbers better. I think it’s
more consistent, gives a regular cadence and does not cause
confusions with having a meeting on the 5th week or not for
instance.</div>
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<div class="">My 2 cents.</div>
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Make sense. Then IMO changing [1] with biweekly-odd or documenting
this as description would be good.<br class="">
For monthly meeting occurrence idea, I would like to follow another
mail thread [2].<br class="">
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Although the next week is even according to ISO week numbers, let's
have training-guides meeting<br class="">
on next Tuesday 13:00 UTC and make accordance for that, since there
were no training-guides team meeting for latest 3 weeks.<br class="">
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Is this okay for all training-guides meeting attendees?<br class="">
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[1]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/irc-meetings/tree/meetings/training-guides-team-meeting.yaml">http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/irc-meetings/tree/meetings/training-guides-team-meeting.yaml</a><br class="">
[2]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2016-November/004835.html">http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2016-November/004835.html</a><br class="">
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With many thanks,<br class="">
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/Ian<br class="">
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<div class="">Thanks and Best Regards,</div>
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<div class="">On 2016. Nov 9., at 20:21, Ian Y. Choi <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ianyrchoi@gmail.com" class="">ianyrchoi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Hello,</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
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if there is an IRC meeting on every week with
alternating times for odd and even weeks,</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
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two bi-weekly schedules with alternating times would be
self-explanatory.</span><br style="font-family:
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
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font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans:
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float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">However,
if the meeting frequency would be just one or two in a
month,</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
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referring such as n-th week in every month would be more
intuitive I think.</span><br style="font-family:
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
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current yaml2ical does not support such logistics,</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
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float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">but
my WIP patch (<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395762/" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
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clue</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size:
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support such logistics in the near future I think :)</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
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that I suggest not to consider 5th weeks because some
months do not have 5th weeks.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
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many thanks,</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica;
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13:34:34 +0900 (+0900), Ian Y. Choi wrote:<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">My understanding of
*odd* weeks is the 1st and 3rd weeks in every month,<br class="">
since we actually had training-guides meetings with
such logistics a few<br class="">
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So you skip 5th weeks when those happen? Or you have
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meeting weeks in those cases?<br class="">
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The way alternating weeks are usually interpreted (and
handled in<br class="">
the IRC meeting scheduling automation we have) is based
on even or<br class="">
odd ISO week numbers:<br class="">
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/yaml2ical/tree/README.rst?id=c29e042#n163" class="">http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/yaml2ical/tree/README.rst?id=c29e042#n163</a><br class="">
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