<div dir="ltr"><div>I don't think we should plan to use puppet-apache. I think we should commit to our fork and fix the issues we have. We can build a simple, flexible apache module and stop. Committing to puppetlabs-apache puts us on the roller coaster of updates and bugfixes.<br><br></div>The issues we are having are not hard to fix, imho. As with any software we build, we need to classify the problems, identify the fixes, do the work, etc.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Yolanda Robla Mota <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yolanda.robla-mota@hp.com" target="_blank">yolanda.robla-mota@hp.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I agree with that approach. We are hitting several issues with
httpd_mod that should be fixed using a defined type.<br>
But I do believe that the way is to consume modules that are trusted
by the community, and don't put efforts on maintaining and evolving
our own modules if there are good alternatives. This will need a
patch to puppetlabs-apache or a wrapper, and a proper migration
plan, so it needs an spec.<br>
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Best<br>
Yolanda<br>
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<div>El 27/08/15 a las 11:23, Ricardo
Carrillo Cruz escribió:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I lean towards fixing now by using the new defined
type and we write a spec
<div>for migrating to puppetlabs-apache (once we merge in
upstream infra needs).</div>
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<div>Regards</div>
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Robla Mota <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yolanda.robla-mota@hp.com" target="_blank">yolanda.robla-mota@hp.com</a>></span>:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi<br>
Thanks for the explanation. As this is a topic that needs
more background, and a deeper discussion, I created an
etherpad to work on it.<br>
You can access on: <br>
<a href="https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-httpd_vs_puppetlabs-apache" target="_blank">https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/puppet-httpd_vs_puppetlabs-apache</a><br>
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Best<br>
Yolanda<br>
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<div>El 26/08/15 a las 20:31, Spencer Krum escribió:<br>
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At the meeting on August 25th, we
discussed an issue with the
puppet-httpd module and a few
solutions. The issue is that the
httpd_mod type does not have a
baked-in ordering relationship with
the Service['httpd'] resource. This
means that sometimes httpd_mod
resources are instantiated after the
service attempts to come up, meaning
the service cannot start.<br>
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A few solutions have been proposed:<br>
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1) Modify our use of the httpd_mod
resource to use 'before' everywhere. This
patch [1] is an example of doing that for
puppet-gerrit, we'd have to perform
similar modifications elsewhere in our
code.<br>
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2) Modify the httpd module to do this
automatically. This patch [2] changes the
type at the ruby layer using puppet internal
apis to add an 'autobefore' on the
Service['httpd'] resource.<br>
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3) Create an httpd::mod defined type that can
do this automatically. We'd have to then
change every invocation of httpd_mod to be
httpd::mod. This patch [3] is the patch to
create httpd::mod and this patch [4] shows
what using it would be like. We'd have to
apply changes like [4] everywhere in our
infrastructure.<br>
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4) Migrate to puppetlabs-apache. This has two
forms, one(4a) involving patching that module to
support our usecase and the other(4b) where we
use the existing api.<br>
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I have my own opinions about what we should be
doing, but this message is meant to explain the
problem and roads available to us, not to
editorialize.<br>
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<div>[1] <a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216708/" target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216708/</a><br>
[2] <a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216436/" target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216436/</a><br>
[3] <a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216835/" target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216835/</a><br>
[4] <a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217334/" target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217334/</a><br clear="all">
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