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    Hi<br>
    So i'm sad to see a project like StoryBoard not arrive to a good
    end, but I understand the decisions that lead to that. With the
    amount of dedicated resources to StoryBoard, it was very complicated
    to provide same features as other open source alternatives, and may
    be a better option to collaborate with other open source projects.<br>
    Thanks Michael for all of your support, and make it easy to
    contribute in StoryBoard. You've been incredibly supportive, and
    helped me to start contributing to the project and gain confidence
    on that. You rock!<br>
    Finally, I think these efforts have not been in vain, because as
    Michael says, we've setup the basis for a successful development
    using AngularJS and best practices there, that can be used as a
    start point for another projects.<br>
    <br>
    It has been a pleasure to work with you all. Best<br>
    Yolanda<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
          From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Michael Krotscheck</b> <span
            dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:krotscheck@gmail.com">krotscheck@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
          Date: 2015-03-24 0:28 GMT+01:00<br>
          Subject: Re: [OpenStack-Infra] Biting the bullet on issue
          tracking<br>
          To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:openstack-infra@lists.openstack.org">openstack-infra@lists.openstack.org</a><br>
          <br>
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              style="font-size:13.1999998092651px;line-height:19.7999992370605px">Hey
              everyone!</span>
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              style="font-size:13.1999998092651px;line-height:19.7999992370605px">It's
              quite rough to realize that the thing you've been
              advocating, working on, and desperately trying to recruit
              contributors for is DoA, and that's what I've been
              struggling with for the past few weeks. Even so, I was
              part and parcel to coming up with Monty's recommendation,
              so this wasn't a surprise.</div>
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              style="font-size:13.1999998092651px;line-height:19.7999992370605px">Don't
              get me wrong: I love the project. I love the team, I love
              our technological vision, I love all these things. There
              are features that I feel are unique - Federation,
              process-agnosticism, clean api/ui separation, etc. - and
              given the opportunity (and proper resources) I would love
              to continue working on it. However for all the excitement
              that I've received over the past year, very little has
              solidified into any kind of concrete contribution. It was
              time to call the bluff.</div>
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              style="font-size:13.1999998092651px;line-height:19.7999992370605px">And
              yet... StoryBoard has been a fantastic test bed for
              JavaScript as a first class citizen in OpenStack, and I'm
              going to continue moving that forward. There are some
              missing parts of our infrastructure, some of our existing
              tools need to be refined and documented, and there are
              some sticky policy items that need to be proposed to the
              TC.<span
                style="font-size:13.1999998092651px;line-height:19.7999992370605px"> I
                see no reason not to continue supporting StoryBoard as
                that test bed, especially since the infrastructure team
                is still using it. </span><span
                style="font-size:13.1999998092651px;line-height:19.7999992370605px">Once
                a reasonable sunset has been reached (assuming new
                contributors don't magically materialize), my plan is to
                dive into the other UI components in OpenStack. </span></div>
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              style="font-size:13.1999998092651px;line-height:19.7999992370605px">A
              very special thank you Yolanda Robla-Mota, Mike Heald,
              Riccardo Cruz, Nikita Konovalov, Aleksey Ripinien, Tom
              Pollard, and all the others who have contributed over the
              past year. Y'all are awesome.</div>
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                <div>Michael</div>
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                <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 4:03 PM
                  Monty Taylor <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:mordred@inaugust.com" target="_blank">mordred@inaugust.com</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
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                    .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi
                    everybody,<br>
                    <br>
                    First, some background:<br>
                    <br>
                    A year and a half ago, Infra started down the road
                    of of writing a<br>
                    replacement for the pieces of Launchpad that
                    OpenStack continues to use.<br>
                    There were several reasons, but notable amongst them
                    are:<br>
                    <br>
                    - Desire to use the forthcoming openstackid
                    OpenID/Oauth as an SSO<br>
                    - Delay in long-standing bugs that affect OpenStack
                    getting fixed<br>
                    <br>
                    The existing open source offerings that we
                    investigated did not have<br>
                    adequate feature parity in the key data model areas
                    that made Launchpad<br>
                    particularly compelling as a choice for us, and
                    adding what we needed to<br>
                    the existing offerings would amount to substantial
                    rewrites ... so we<br>
                    decided that we had no real choice but to write our
                    own.<br>
                    <br>
                    Where we're at<br>
                    <br>
                    We've gotten far enough to get Infra moved on to
                    storyboard, but the<br>
                    project has never really gotten resourced to the
                    level it needs to be to<br>
                    truly responsive to the needs of our community.
                    We're making good<br>
                    progress towards meeting the initial set of goals we
                    set, but in the<br>
                    mean time several new requests have come in - such
                    as from the UX team<br>
                    and the Product Management Working Group - that we
                    cannot meet today and<br>
                    which at our current rate I do not believe we would
                    be able to meet in a<br>
                    reasonable timeframe.<br>
                    <br>
                    At the same time, the state of the art around us has
                    improved since we<br>
                    started. A year and a half ago, I was able to very
                    honestly say that we<br>
                    needed to work on this effort because we simply had
                    no other choice.<br>
                    That is no longer true. Existing Open Source
                    offerings not only can<br>
                    represent a large portion of our data needs, but
                    additionally can<br>
                    support the additional features that have been
                    requested by our<br>
                    community today out of the box.<br>
                    <br>
                    The combination of the two of those makes the
                    likelihood of us being<br>
                    able to convince people to pony up more resources
                    seem more and more far<br>
                    fetched. I could be wrong, of course - it's possible
                    that in response to<br>
                    this someone will start jumping up and down and
                    commit engineers to the<br>
                    effort ... but I'm not holding my breath.<br>
                    <br>
                    Biting the bullet<br>
                    <br>
                    I think we should get out of the business of writing
                    our own bug tracker.<br>
                    <br>
                    It's not an easy thing to say, and I don't say it
                    lightly. There are<br>
                    things that storyboard models well that continue to
                    be things that<br>
                    simply are not modeled elsewhere. However, I think
                    it's important to<br>
                    know when good enough will do, and I think it's
                    important to be able to<br>
                    step up and say that we tried valiantly, and
                    everyone involved did a<br>
                    great job, and yet the world has moved on and
                    writing a bug tracker is<br>
                    not, at the end of the day, what we're all here to
                    do.<br>
                    <br>
                    We're looking at what our options are, and Thierry
                    is examining them to<br>
                    see how tolerable their differences would be to our
                    community.<br>
                    <br>
                    I propose that we have a solid answer and migration
                    plan to put in front<br>
                    of people by Vancouver at the latest.<br>
                    <br>
                    Finally, I'd like to say thank you to the storyboard
                    team for attacking<br>
                    a very hard problem with not enough resources.<br>
                    <br>
                    Monty<br>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Yolanda Robla Mota
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