[OpenStack-Infra] [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party

Kurt Taylor kurt.r.taylor at gmail.com
Tue Dec 2 15:39:45 UTC 2014


I think we would have MUCH better attendance if we changed the time from
Monday. Most everyone in the summit session had heard of the meeting, but
we only get 5 or so out of the 100+ possible. Everyone I have talked to
agrees that the current time is not good, and that an additional time (or
alternating meeting time) would be a great solution.

As far as it confusing people, I think my fellow Third-party CI operators
are smart enough to figure it out. It seems to work fine for the >10 other
work groups that have implemented this approach. If we can agree on
Wednesday, that is a start. I am much more flexible on the meeting times on
Wednesday and earlier or later than I proposed is no problem for me.

So Anita is not in favor of my alternating time proposal. Anyone else?

Thanks everyone!
Kurt Taylor (krtaylor)

On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info> wrote:

> Thanks for all the responses so far.
>
> This is to find an *additional* meeting time. This is not to have
> meeting times that switch from week to week. That would only confuse
> people. We don't need that. Trying to find a meeting time that would
> work for everybody doesn't work, hence the direction to create an
> *additional* meeting time. That way if you miss one, you can attend
> another.
>
> So far we have:
> Josh's suggestion of 00:00am Tuesday UTC
> Nurit's suggestion of Mondays anytime between 8:00 - 16:00
> Salvadore's seconding of Josh's proposal
> Trinath's suggestion of 05:00AM UTC on Tuesdays
>
> 1400 and 2200 doesn't give us anything better than what we have.
>
> Based on conversations at the summit, I would really like to see if
> Nurit and Josh can convene on an agreed time, I would really like to see
> both of them being able to attend on a regular basis.
>
> If we tried to work with an 8:00 utc time, either Monday or Tuesday,
> would that work for you, Josh and Nurit? (That would be 7pm in the
> evening for you, Josh - I think - is that workable?)
>
> Thanks I appreciate the interest,
> Anita.
>
>
> On 12/02/2014 08:12 AM, Salvatore Orlando wrote:
> > 1800UTC should generally work for Europe. The only issue is that it falls
> > right around dinner time.
> > It is however a good timing since most of the night hours fall over the
> > pacific ocean.
> >
> > Therefore I tend to agree with Joshua's proposal since with that time
> range
> > most of the night hours would fall over the atlantic.
> > Ideally 0600UTC is perfectly symmetric to the other meeting time, but it
> > might be a bit tricky for western and central Europe, especially during
> > winter.
> > Anytime between 0700UTC and 0900UTC would be better for Europe, but might
> > fall towards dinner time for Australia and be a bit uncomfortable for New
> > Zealand during their summer.
> >
> > Anyway, this proposal would make the meeting time prohibitive for
> > eastern/central US & Canada as well as South America. I don't know if
> > that's acceptable considering that, from what I gather, most of the
> regular
> > attendees come from those time zones.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Salvatore
> >
> > On 2 December 2014 at 12:44, Kurt Taylor <kurt.r.taylor at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for starting this discussion Anita.
> >>
> >> The existing meeting time on Monday has never worked well for me. We
> could
> >> follow what other working groups have done, having alternating meeting
> >> times to accommodate everyone.
> >>
> >> I propose that we have 2 meetings of Third-party CI Ops, alternating
> weeks:
> >> Wednesday 1400 UTC in #openstack-meeting-3
> >> Wednesday 2200 UTC in #openstack-meeting-3
> >>
> >> Kurt Taylor (krtaylor)
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 2:46 AM, Nurit Vilosny <nuritv at mellanox.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> HI,
> >>> Thanks Anita for pushing it. We will be able to be much more involved
> if
> >>> meetings would be earlier.
> >>> We're located in Israel, so Mondays anytime between 8:00 - 16:00, will
> be
> >>> ideal for us.
> >>>
> >>> Nurit
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: trinath.somanchi at freescale.com [mailto:
> >>> trinath.somanchi at freescale.com]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 10:32 AM
> >>> To: Anita Kuno; openstack Development Mailing List;
> >>> openstack-infra at lists.openstack.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for
> >>> Additional Meeting for third-party
> >>>
> >>> Hi-
> >>>
> >>> Its nice to have CI operators meetings.
> >>>
> >>> I'm from India, Its okay for me for 05:00AM UTC on Tuesdays.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Trinath Somanchi - B39208
> >>> trinath.somanchi at freescale.com | extn: 4048
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Anita Kuno [mailto:anteaya at anteaya.info]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 1:37 AM
> >>> To: openstack Development Mailing List;
> >>> openstack-infra at lists.openstack.org
> >>> Subject: [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for
> >>> third-party
> >>>
> >>> One of the actions from the Kilo Third-Party CI summit session was to
> >>> start up an additional meeting for CI operators to participate from
> >>> non-North American time zones.
> >>>
> >>> Please reply to this email with times/days that would work for you. The
> >>> current third party meeting is on Mondays at 1800 utc which works well
> >>> since Infra meetings are on Tuesdays. If we could find a time that
> works
> >>> for Europe and APAC that is also on Monday that would be ideal.
> >>>
> >>> Josh Hesketh has said he will try to be available for these meetings,
> he
> >>> is in Australia.
> >>>
> >>> Let's get a sense of what days and timeframes work for those interested
> >>> and then we can narrow it down and pick a channel.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks everyone,
> >>> Anita.
> >>>
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