<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">[resending to the lists]<div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 1, 2017, at 10:55 AM, Doug Hellmann <<a href="mailto:doug@doughellmann.com" class="">doug@doughellmann.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Excerpts from Andreas Jaeger's message of 2017-08-01 08:57:09 +0200:</span><br style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">On 2017-07-31 22:46, Doug Hellmann wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Excerpts from Ian Y. Choi's message of 2017-08-01 03:16:09 +0900:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">[...]<br class="">2. Draft index page for translated documents was also removed<br class=""><br class="">Previously, Docs team maintained draft documents for the master branch<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">(which will be the stable branch<br class="">after the official release and the document stables) on<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><a href="https://docs.openstack.org/draft/draft-index.html" class="">https://docs.openstack.org/draft/draft-index.html</a> page.<br class="">It also contained translated draft documents and I18n team accessed the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">page to see whether translated documents<br class="">render well or not, and also review translated strings.<br class=""><br class="">I did not notice when I saw the spec [1], but recently, I noticed that<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">the the draft-index.html page was deprecated<br class="">by [next-release-name]/index.haml (e.g.,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><a href="https://docs.openstack.org/pike/index.html" class="">https://docs.openstack.org/pike/index.html</a> ) [4].<br class=""><br class="">Since I18n team encourages translation review for the better quality of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">translations, it is a good idea to see<br class="">draft documents before language landing pages have the link to fully<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">translated and reviewed documents.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Is it possible to see the draft of a translation by reviewing the<br class="">output of the job that proposes the patch containing the translated<br class="">text?<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Currently not, it needs publishing to docs-draft and a way to access the<br class="">multiple documents. Note this needs handling for both openstack-manuals<br class="">and project repos like neutron (networking-guide).<br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Could we make it work that way? I understand why we need a separate</span><br style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">review step for the translations, but not why we need a separate</span><br style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">copy of the docs published outside of the context of a job in order</span><br style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">to perform that review. (This is probably just me not understanding</span><br style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">how a tool works.)</span><br style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Motoki-san proposed an idea of translation status support using an yaml<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">file in openstack-manuals [5],<br class="">and I would like to discuss with I18n team how we deal with the change<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">of draft index page.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">How would that flag or information be used?<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">WE could just have the link to it added - dependent on the flag - to either:<br class="">* language index<br class="">* draft index<br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">It seems like we want a list of languages for which there are</span><br style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">translations for a given set of docs. We could use that to populate</span><br style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">templates in a few different ways (link from the English version</span><br style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">to the other languages, link from a $language landing page to all</span><br style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">of the guides in that language, etc.).</span><br style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">I can advise someone on how to add those features, if we have a</span><br style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">volunteer.</span><br style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Doug</span></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>