<html><body><p>Thank you, Akihiro.<br>It looks wonderful.<br>I think we could mark I18nTeam translatable now. <br><br>Tom, please help.<br><br>Best regards<br>Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)<br><br><br><tt>Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com> wrote on 2015/11/12 23:06:14:<br><br>> From: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com></tt><br><tt>> To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN</tt><br><tt>> Cc: Tom Fifield <tom@openstack.org>, Openstack-i18n <openstack-<br>> i18n@lists.openstack.org></tt><br><tt>> Date: 2015/11/12 23:06</tt><br><tt>> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable</tt><br><tt>> <br>> Hi Daisy,<br>> <br>> I move all team wiki pages to I18nTeam/team/xxxxx.<br>> In addition, I created a page <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/team">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/team</a><br>> which contains a list of language teams.<br>> <br>> Akihiro<br>> <br>> 2015-11-12 16:04 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc@cn.ibm.com>:<br>> > Thank you Tom.<br>> > Sorry for the trouble.<br>> > I will move all the team wiki pages to different links.<br>> ><br>> > Best regards<br>> > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Tom Fifield <tom@openstack.org> wrote on 2015/11/12 07:43:39:<br>> ><br>> >> From: Tom Fifield <tom@openstack.org><br>> >> To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN, Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com><br>> >> Cc: Openstack-i18n <openstack-i18n@lists.openstack.org><br>> >> Date: 2015/11/12 07:43<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable<br>> >><br>> >> Hi,<br>> >><br>> >> Sorry, it took a while to work out how to disable the translations.<br>> >> That's been done now.<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> Regards,<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> Tom<br>> >><br>> >> On 11/11/15 18:09, Ying Chun Guo wrote:<br>> >> > I think we need to disable the translation at first.<br>> >> > Then we could be able to move them.<br>> >> > I'm not able to move, same as you.<br>> >> ><br>> >> > Best regards<br>> >> > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)<br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> > Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com> wrote on 2015/11/11 14:40:43:<br>> >> ><br>> >> > > From: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com><br>> >> > > To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN<br>> >> > > Cc: "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi@gmail.com>, Openstack-i18n <openstack-<br>> >> > > i18n@lists.openstack.org><br>> >> > > Date: 2015/11/11 15:05<br>> >> > > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable<br>> >> > ><br>> >> > > Daisy,<br>> >> > ><br>> >> > > It sounds good to me, but normal users like me cannot move pages.<br>> >> > > I got Permission Error. Could you handle all moving of pages?<br>> >> > ><br>> >> > ><br>> >> > > 2015-11-11 15:05 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc@cn.ibm.com>:<br>> >> > > > Thank you for the explain Ian.<br>> >> > > > I think we could move the wiki pages for language teams to<br>> >> > > > /I18nTeam/team/<language-code>,<br>> >> > > > and then keep /I18nTeam/<language-code> for the translation page of<br>> >> > > > I18nTeam.<br>> >> > > ><br>> >> > > > How do you think about it, Akihiro?<br>> >> > > ><br>> >> > > > Best regards<br>> >> > > > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)<br>> >> > > ><br>> >> > > ><br>> >> > > > "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi@gmail.com> wrote on 2015/11/11 00:55:07:<br>> >> > > ><br>> >> > > >> From: "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi@gmail.com><br>> >> > > >> To: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com>, Ying Chun<br>> >> > Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN<br>> >> > > >> Cc: Openstack-i18n <openstack-i18n@lists.openstack.org><br>> >> > > >> Date: 2015/11/11 00:55<br>> >> > > >> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable<br>> >> > > ><br>> >> > > ><br>> >> > > >><br>> >> > > >> Hello Akihiro,<br>> >> > > >><br>> >> > > >> Actually I suggested a translatable I18nTeam wiki page [1] for<br>> >> > Korean<br>> >> > > >> during last Tokyo Design Summit.<br>> >> > > >> After saying it, I found that there might be a problem in Japanese<br>> >> > local<br>> >> > > >> team<br>> >> > > >> because Japanese language team already used /ja page, as you<br>> >> > mentioned and<br>> >> > > >> which would make conflict with translation functionality in<br>> >> > OpenStack<br>> >> > > >> wiki.<br>> >> > > >><br>> >> > > >> Let me first say why Korean translation page for I18nTeam is<br>> >> > needed and<br>> >> > > >> how Korean translation team wants to use two wiki pages<br>> >> > separately:<br>> >> > > >><br>> >> > > >> 1) <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ko">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ko</a><br>> >> > > >> : To provide Korean guys with official I18nTeam introduction<br>> >> > wiki page<br>> >> > > >> : I think "Local Translation Teams" section is needed because<br>> >> > this<br>> >> > > >> information is<br>> >> > > >> beneficial with the knowledge of the various language team<br>> >> > activities.<br>> >> > > >><br>> >> > > >> 2) <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/team/ko_KR">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/team/ko_KR</a><br>> >> > > >> (I found that Daisy moved from .../ko_KR to .../team/ko_KR.<br>> >> > Thank you!)<br>> >> > > >> : To introduce Korean translation team with details and our<br>> >> > specific<br>> >> > > >> translation rules<br>> >> > > >> : Providing links for OpenStack I18n official introduction wiki<br>> >> > page &<br>> >> > > >> its translation<br>> >> > > >><br>> >> > > >> I would like to respect I18nTeam official wiki page, and this<br>> >> > > >> information is written in English.<br>> >> > > >> In my opinion, translating this page would more clearly advertise<br>> >> > > >> OpenStack I18n overall activities to more Korean.<br>> >> > > >><br>> >> > > >> This requirement and need might be different from various local<br>> >> > > >> translation teams, I think,<br>> >> > > >> and I also would like to respect the ways Japanese team used more<br>> >> > than 1<br>> >> > > >> year.<br>> >> > > >><br>> >> > > >> So I would like to suggest not to include "<languages />" tag on<br>> >> > [1] .<br>> >> > > >> As you know, OpenStack Release Note wiki pages such as [2]<br>> >> > > >> contain "<languages />" tag and displays different language<br>> >> > translated<br>> >> > > >> pages on the top part.<br>> >> > > >><br>> >> > > >> I think this suggestion would satisfy different needs from various<br>> >> > > >> language translation teams.<br>> >> > > >> However, if <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam</a> page includes<br>> >> > > >> "<languages />" tag,<br>> >> > > >> then it would not fit to not only Japanese translation team, but<br>> >> > also<br>> >> > > >> other teams such as French, Polish and so on.<br>> >> > > >> For Korean translation team, our official page contains the<br>> >> > translated<br>> >> > > >> I18nTeam link so it would be okay.<br>> >> > > >><br>> >> > > >> I am not sure, but Daisy might already think so Daisy only moved<br>> >> > from<br>> >> > > >> .../ko_KR to .../team/ko_KR, and<br>> >> > > >> did not include "<languages />" tag on [1] :)<br>> >> > > >><br>> >> > > >> This is just my suggestion not to conflict with your team and to<br>> >> > > >> accomplish our team requirement,<br>> >> > > >> and I would like to listen Daisy's opinion and other language<br>> >> > teams'<br>> >> > > >> opinions.<br>> >> > > >><br>> >> > > >> [1] <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam</a><br>> >> > > >> [2] <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty</a><br>> >> > > >><br>> >> > > >><br>> >> > > >> With many thanks,<br>> >> > > >><br>> >> > > >> /Ian<br>> >> > > >><br>> >> > > >> Akihiro Motoki wrote on 11/10/2015 8:48 PM:<br>> >> > > >> > In addition, Japanese team maintains the original contents which<br>> >> > > >> > are differ from the English version of I18nTeam page.<br>> >> > > >> > Before enabling translation for I18nTeam, I would like to see a<br>> >> > solution<br>> >> > > >> > for language specific content.<br>> >> > > >> ><br>> >> > > >> ><br>> >> > > >> > 2015-11-10 20:45 GMT+09:00 Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com>:<br>> >> > > >> >> I noticed the existing language team page cannot be edited.<br>> >> > > >> >> For example, <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ja">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ja</a> exists<br>> >> > from<br>> >> > > >> >> more than one year ago.<br>> >> > > >> >> After this change, we can no longer edit the original page.<br>> >> > > >> >> What should we do?<br>> >> > > >> >><br>> >> > > >> >> In addition, I18nTeam wiki page contains contents which is not<br>> >> > > >> >> appropriate for translation,<br>> >> > > >> >> for example, "Local Translation Teams" section.<br>> >> > > >> >> As a local team coordinator, I don't like to display this<br>> >> > section in a<br>> >> > > >> >> translated version.<br>> >> > > >> >><br>> >> > > >> >> Thanks,<br>> >> > > >> >> Akihiro<br>> >> > > >> >><br>> >> > > >> >> 2015-11-10 18:11 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc@cn.ibm.com>:<br>> >> > > >> >>> Hi,<br>> >> > > >> >>><br>> >> > > >> >>> As requested by Korean team, the wiki page of I18nTeam is<br>> >> > > >> translatable now.<br>> >> > > >> >>> If you want to translate this page into your own language,<br>> >> > > >> please go ahead.<br>> >> > > >> >>> Thank you.<br>> >> > > >> >>><br>> >> > > >> >>> Best regards<br>> >> > > >> >>> Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)<br>> >> > > >> >>><br>> >> > > >> >>><br>> >> > > >> >>> _______________________________________________<br>> >> > > >> >>> Openstack-i18n mailing list<br>> >> > > >> >>> Openstack-i18n@lists.openstack.org<br>> >> > > >> >>><br>> >> > <a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n</a><br>> >> > > >> >>><br>> >> > > >> > _______________________________________________<br>> >> > > >> > Openstack-i18n mailing list<br>> >> > > >> > Openstack-i18n@lists.openstack.org<br>> >> > > >> ><br>> >> > <a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n</a><br>> >> > > >><br>> >> > > >> --<br>> >> > > >> /Ian<br>> >> > > >><br>> >> > > ><br>> >> > ><br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> > _______________________________________________<br>> >> > Openstack-i18n mailing list<br>> >> > Openstack-i18n@lists.openstack.org<br>> >> > <a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n</a><br>> >> ><br>> >><br>> ><br>> <br></tt><BR>
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