<html><body><p>I think we need to disable the translation at first.<br>Then we could be able to move them.<br>I'm not able to move, same as you.<br><br>Best regards<br>Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)<br><br><br><tt>Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com> wrote on 2015/11/11 14:40:43:<br><br>> From: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com></tt><br><tt>> To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN</tt><br><tt>> Cc: "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi@gmail.com>, Openstack-i18n <openstack-<br>> i18n@lists.openstack.org></tt><br><tt>> Date: 2015/11/11 15:05</tt><br><tt>> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable</tt><br><tt>> <br>> Daisy,<br>> <br>> It sounds good to me, but normal users like me cannot move pages.<br>> I got Permission Error. Could you handle all moving of pages?<br>> <br>> <br>> 2015-11-11 15:05 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc@cn.ibm.com>:<br>> > Thank you for the explain Ian.<br>> > I think we could move the wiki pages for language teams to<br>> > /I18nTeam/team/<language-code>,<br>> > and then keep /I18nTeam/<language-code> for the translation page of<br>> > I18nTeam.<br>> ><br>> > How do you think about it, Akihiro?<br>> ><br>> > Best regards<br>> > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi@gmail.com> wrote on 2015/11/11 00:55:07:<br>> ><br>> >> From: "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi@gmail.com><br>> >> To: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com>, Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM@IBMCN<br>> >> Cc: Openstack-i18n <openstack-i18n@lists.openstack.org><br>> >> Date: 2015/11/11 00:55<br>> >> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >><br>> >> Hello Akihiro,<br>> >><br>> >> Actually I suggested a translatable I18nTeam wiki page [1] for Korean<br>> >> during last Tokyo Design Summit.<br>> >> After saying it, I found that there might be a problem in Japanese local<br>> >> team<br>> >> because Japanese language team already used /ja page, as you mentioned and<br>> >> which would make conflict with translation functionality in OpenStack<br>> >> wiki.<br>> >><br>> >> Let me first say why Korean translation page for I18nTeam is needed and<br>> >> how Korean translation team wants to use two wiki pages separately:<br>> >><br>> >> 1) <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ko">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ko</a><br>> >> : To provide Korean guys with official I18nTeam introduction wiki page<br>> >> : I think "Local Translation Teams" section is needed because this<br>> >> information is<br>> >> beneficial with the knowledge of the various language team activities.<br>> >><br>> >> 2) <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/team/ko_KR">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/team/ko_KR</a><br>> >> (I found that Daisy moved from .../ko_KR to .../team/ko_KR. Thank you!)<br>> >> : To introduce Korean translation team with details and our specific<br>> >> translation rules<br>> >> : Providing links for OpenStack I18n official introduction wiki page &<br>> >> its translation<br>> >><br>> >> I would like to respect I18nTeam official wiki page, and this<br>> >> information is written in English.<br>> >> In my opinion, translating this page would more clearly advertise<br>> >> OpenStack I18n overall activities to more Korean.<br>> >><br>> >> This requirement and need might be different from various local<br>> >> translation teams, I think,<br>> >> and I also would like to respect the ways Japanese team used more than 1<br>> >> year.<br>> >><br>> >> So I would like to suggest not to include "<languages />" tag on [1] .<br>> >> As you know, OpenStack Release Note wiki pages such as [2]<br>> >> contain "<languages />" tag and displays different language translated<br>> >> pages on the top part.<br>> >><br>> >> I think this suggestion would satisfy different needs from various<br>> >> language translation teams.<br>> >> However, if <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam</a> page includes<br>> >> "<languages />" tag,<br>> >> then it would not fit to not only Japanese translation team, but also<br>> >> other teams such as French, Polish and so on.<br>> >> For Korean translation team, our official page contains the translated<br>> >> I18nTeam link so it would be okay.<br>> >><br>> >> I am not sure, but Daisy might already think so Daisy only moved from<br>> >> .../ko_KR to .../team/ko_KR, and<br>> >> did not include "<languages />" tag on [1] :)<br>> >><br>> >> This is just my suggestion not to conflict with your team and to<br>> >> accomplish our team requirement,<br>> >> and I would like to listen Daisy's opinion and other language teams'<br>> >> opinions.<br>> >><br>> >> [1] <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam</a><br>> >> [2] <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty</a><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> With many thanks,<br>> >><br>> >> /Ian<br>> >><br>> >> Akihiro Motoki wrote on 11/10/2015 8:48 PM:<br>> >> > In addition, Japanese team maintains the original contents which<br>> >> > are differ from the English version of I18nTeam page.<br>> >> > Before enabling translation for I18nTeam, I would like to see a solution<br>> >> > for language specific content.<br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> > 2015-11-10 20:45 GMT+09:00 Akihiro Motoki <amotoki@gmail.com>:<br>> >> >> I noticed the existing language team page cannot be edited.<br>> >> >> For example, <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ja">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ja</a> exists from<br>> >> >> more than one year ago.<br>> >> >> After this change, we can no longer edit the original page.<br>> >> >> What should we do?<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> In addition, I18nTeam wiki page contains contents which is not<br>> >> >> appropriate for translation,<br>> >> >> for example, "Local Translation Teams" section.<br>> >> >> As a local team coordinator, I don't like to display this section in a<br>> >> >> translated version.<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> Thanks,<br>> >> >> Akihiro<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> 2015-11-10 18:11 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc@cn.ibm.com>:<br>> >> >>> Hi,<br>> >> >>><br>> >> >>> As requested by Korean team, the wiki page of I18nTeam is<br>> >> translatable now.<br>> >> >>> If you want to translate this page into your own language,<br>> >> please go ahead.<br>> >> >>> Thank you.<br>> >> >>><br>> >> >>> Best regards<br>> >> >>> Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)<br>> >> >>><br>> >> >>><br>> >> >>> _______________________________________________<br>> >> >>> Openstack-i18n mailing list<br>> >> >>> Openstack-i18n@lists.openstack.org<br>> >> >>> <a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n</a><br>> >> >>><br>> >> > _______________________________________________<br>> >> > Openstack-i18n mailing list<br>> >> > Openstack-i18n@lists.openstack.org<br>> >> > <a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n</a><br>> >><br>> >> --<br>> >> /Ian<br>> >><br>> ><br>> <br></tt><BR>
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