[Openstack-i18n] Criteria of Horizon language list for Mitakarelease
amotoki at gmail.com
Tue Mar 22 12:24:01 UTC 2016
2016-03-22 19:56 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc at cn.ibm.com>:
> Akihiro Motoki <amotoki at gmail.com> wrote on 03/22/2016 06:43:33 PM:
>> From: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki at gmail.com>
>> To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM at IBMCN
>> Cc: "openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org"
> <openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org>
>> Date: 03/22/2016 06:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] Criteria of Horizon language list for
>> 2016-03-22 18:00 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc at cn.ibm.com>:
>> > Akihiro Motoki <amotoki at gmail.com> wrote on 03/22/2016 02:27:21 AM:
>> >> From: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki at gmail.com>
>> >> To: "openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org"
>> > <Openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org>
>> >> Date: 03/22/2016 02:29 AM
>> >> Subject: [Openstack-i18n] Criteria of Horizon language list for
>> > release
>> >> Hi i18n team,
>> >> As Horizon liaison, I would like to ask you all about the criteria of
>> >> Horizon language list for Mitaka release.
>> >> The same topic was discussed several releases ago and the consensus
>> >> that time were:
>> >> * remove all translations with less than 90% progress
>> >> * update the language list accordingly.
>> >> Translations were imported manually at that time and the situation
>> >> be changed now.
>> >> I don't have an opinion and will just follow the i18n project
>> >> If no response or well-defined criteria, I will just keep the current
>> >> language list .
>> > Thank you for taking care of that, Akihiro.
>> > I don't see any requests to change the language list.
>> >> The following is just information:
>> >> We have four PO files (django/djangojs for horizon and
>> > openstack_dashboard).
>> >> The current translation import policy for each PO file is
>> > .
>> >> Each PO file is imported once the translation percentage becomes over
>> > 75%
>> >> and it will be removed when the translation percentage becomes less
>> > 20%.
>> >> What is our criteria?
>> > My opinion is to follow the previous guidelines.
>> Do you mean we should remove <90% translations and update the lang
>> list accordingly?
>> I made a quick survey. The result is not so happy, but I will just
>> follow the team decision.
>> We have four PO files per language for horizon.
>> My understanding is 90% means 90% translations for all these PO files.
>> Unfortunately, as of today, only four languages satisfy this criteria
>> (90%): de, fr, ja, ko
>> If we change the criteria to 66%, we will have three more languages:
>> pt-br, ru, zh-cn.
>> It is too sad statistics. openstack_dashboard/djangojs is the
>> bottleneck of the progress.
>> On the other hand, the current language list contains 15 translated
>> cs, de, en-gb, en-au, es, fr, it, ja, ko, pl, pt-br, ru, tr, zh-cn,
> No, I didn't mean to remove <90% translations.
> Did we do that before ?
I re-read the old logs. My memory is not correct.
We first import ~100% translated languages, and then relaxed the
criteria to 90~95%.
It seems I thought this is the criteria.
After that, we discussed and agreed the criteria
of >75% for addition and <66% for deleteion for each PO file.
That's the history.
> I thought the criteria was 66%.
I got it. I just quoted the i18n team consensus several release ago
and I didn't thought it has been updated as wrote above. Thanks.
> I just realized the difference situation we met in this release.
> We have included plugin projects.
> Before mitaka, we only focus on Horizon translation.
> If we only take a look at the completion rate of Horizon, I think most
> active translation team have achieved >66%. So it means, we don't need to
> remove any languages from the list.
> If we consider the overall completion rate of plugin projects together
> with Horizon projects, some languages are less than 66%.
> My suggestion is to only consider the progress of Horizon project.
> 90% is too strict, I think. 66% is better.
Totally agree. I just would like to clarify the criteria.
Is it okay that I just update the language list with >66% progress?
Everyone can see the progress at
I will decide the progress based on this.
>> >> In future releases, I think we should automate this as a part of
>> >> translation import jobs.
>> >> I will reduce the work of horizon liaison.
>> > I agree.
>> >> Akihiro
>> >>  https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/
>> >> openstack_dashboard/settings.py#L198-L215
>> >>  https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Translations/
>> >> Infrastructure#Translation_percentage_changes
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