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On 9/18/2015 10:54 AM, Akihiro Motoki wrote:
> I have no comment on Liberty translation priority atm.
>
> I think a couple of different topics are discussed at the same here.
>
> * CLI translation priority
> * Server side project translation priority
> * (potential) usage of server side project translations in Horizon
>
> We need to have more contact with project teams in the next cycle
> more deeply to decide translation priorties before starting translations.
> In the past releases, i18n team tended to start discussions after starting
> translations and it is too late for the game in most cases.
>
> Regarding client projects, I know openstackclient is our future and
> the keystone team encourage to use openstackclient for Keystone v3 API.
> However, regarding other projects like nova or neutron,
> the progress of openstackclient integration is not well enojgh
> and a new feature is implemented in each client.
> Thus we need to consider the priority in the next cycle.

I agree with this.  We are nowhere near, as far as I can tell anyway, of 
deprecating python-novaclient.  The reason we pushed the changes to 
translate the project is because people are pushing changes into 
python-novaclient to mark strings for translation, but there was never 
any infrastructure in place to do those translations (the project wasn't 
even configured with babel until a couple of weeks ago).

So the feeling was, why not translate it?  It's easy to setup.  I agree 
that python-openstackclient is higher priority for the CLI, but 
python-novaclient is not going away anytime soon, especially now that we 
have microversion support in it for the compute API, which I don't think 
python-openstackclient has.

>
> For other topics, I will comment on them later if necessary.
>
> Akihiro
>
> 2015-09-18 22:33 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc at cn.ibm.com
> <mailto:guoyingc at cn.ibm.com>>:
>
>     very important information.
>     I don't think translators would like to translate already
>     deprecated or in the future deprecated clients.
>     I might not be able to include openstack client in the Liberty
>     translation plan.
>     But I would put it high priority after Liberty translation.
>     And next release, I will add openstack client to in the translation
>     plan.
>
>     Best regards
>     Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
>
>
>     Andreas Jaeger <aj at suse.com <mailto:aj at suse.com>> wrote on
>     09/18/2015 04:51:32 PM:
>
>     > From: Andreas Jaeger <aj at suse.com <mailto:aj at suse.com>>
>      > To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM at IBMCN
>      > Cc: "openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org
>     <mailto:openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org>"
>     <openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org
>     <mailto:openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org>>
>      > Date: 09/18/2015 04:52 PM
>      > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] translating python clients
>      >
>      > On 09/18/2015 10:35 AM, Ying Chun Guo wrote:
>      > > Andreas,
>      > >
>      > > Forgive me if I ask funny question.
>      >
>      > There are no funny questions, please ask!
>      >
>      > > I see there is python-openstackclient in Zanata server.
>      > > What is it for ?
>      >
>      > python-openstackclient is the "unnifed OpenStack client" that will
>      > replace the per-project clients like python-keystoneclient (command
>      > keystone).
>      >
>      > See http://docs.openstack.org/developer/python-openstackclient/
>      >
>      > > What is the relationship between python-openstackclient and
>     other python
>      > > clients ( e.g python-keystoneclient,
>      > > python-heatclient, and python-novaclient) ?
>      >
>      > The goal of python-openstackclient is to replace these.
>     keystoneclient
>      > is already deprecated in favor of openstackclient.
>      >
>      > So, priority wise: openstackclient has higher priority than the
>     others.
>      > The question for me is whether we want to translate these already
>      > deprecated or in the future deprecated clients at all.
>      >
>      > Btw. I also think that the python-openstackclient has a higher
>     priority
>      > than nova - but lower than horizon. Both horizon and the client
>     address
>      > the end user while nova addresses the adminstrator,
>      >
>      > Andreas
>      >
>      > > Best regards
>      > > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
>      > >
>      > >
>      > > Andreas Jaeger <aj at suse.com <mailto:aj at suse.com>> wrote on
>     09/18/2015 01:45:37 AM:
>      > >
>      > >  > From: Andreas Jaeger <aj at suse.com <mailto:aj at suse.com>>
>      > >  > To: "openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org
>     <mailto:openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org>"
>      > > <openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org
>     <mailto:openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org>>
>      > >  > Date: 09/18/2015 01:47 AM
>      > >  > Subject: [Openstack-i18n] translating python clients
>      > >  >
>      > >  > We now have setup python-keystoneclient for translation and
>     there're
>      > >  > requests for python-heatclient and python-novaclient
>      > >  > (https://review.openstack.org/224832heatand
>      > >  > https://review.openstack.org/224222nova)
>      > >  >
>      > >  > Does it really make sense to translate these? Especially
>     with the
>      > >  > openstack client getting translated already?
>      > >  >
>      > >  > My proposal would be to concentrate on the openstack client
>     and tell the
>      > >  > teams to not mark the clients for translation.
>      > >  >
>      > >  > What do you think?
>      > >  >
>      > >  > Please see also
>      > >  >
>      > > http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/
>
>      > 073698.html
>      > >  >
>      > >  > Andreas
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