[Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable

Akihiro Motoki amotoki at gmail.com
Thu Nov 12 15:06:14 UTC 2015


Hi Daisy,

I move all team wiki pages to I18nTeam/team/xxxxx.
In addition, I created a page https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/team
which contains a list of language teams.

Akihiro

2015-11-12 16:04 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc at cn.ibm.com>:
> Thank you Tom.
> Sorry for the trouble.
> I will move all the team wiki pages to different links.
>
> Best regards
> Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
>
>
> Tom Fifield <tom at openstack.org> wrote on 2015/11/12 07:43:39:
>
>> From: Tom Fifield <tom at openstack.org>
>> To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM at IBMCN, Akihiro Motoki <amotoki at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Openstack-i18n <openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org>
>> Date: 2015/11/12 07:43
>
>
>> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sorry, it took a while to work out how to disable the translations.
>> That's been done now.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> On 11/11/15 18:09, Ying Chun Guo wrote:
>> > I think we need to disable the translation at first.
>> > Then we could be able to move them.
>> > I'm not able to move, same as you.
>> >
>> > Best regards
>> > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
>> >
>> >
>> > Akihiro Motoki <amotoki at gmail.com> wrote on 2015/11/11 14:40:43:
>> >
>> >  > From: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki at gmail.com>
>> >  > To: Ying Chun Guo/China/IBM at IBMCN
>> >  > Cc: "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi at gmail.com>, Openstack-i18n <openstack-
>> >  > i18n at lists.openstack.org>
>> >  > Date: 2015/11/11 15:05
>> >  > Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable
>> >  >
>> >  > Daisy,
>> >  >
>> >  > It sounds good to me, but normal users like me cannot move pages.
>> >  > I got Permission Error. Could you handle all moving of pages?
>> >  >
>> >  >
>> >  > 2015-11-11 15:05 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc at cn.ibm.com>:
>> >  > > Thank you for the explain Ian.
>> >  > > I think we could move the wiki pages for language teams to
>> >  > > /I18nTeam/team/<language-code>,
>> >  > > and then keep /I18nTeam/<language-code> for the translation page of
>> >  > > I18nTeam.
>> >  > >
>> >  > > How do you think about it, Akihiro?
>> >  > >
>> >  > > Best regards
>> >  > > Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
>> >  > >
>> >  > >
>> >  > > "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi at gmail.com> wrote on 2015/11/11 00:55:07:
>> >  > >
>> >  > >> From: "Ian Y. Choi" <ianyrchoi at gmail.com>
>> >  > >> To: Akihiro Motoki <amotoki at gmail.com>, Ying Chun
>> > Guo/China/IBM at IBMCN
>> >  > >> Cc: Openstack-i18n <openstack-i18n at lists.openstack.org>
>> >  > >> Date: 2015/11/11 00:55
>> >  > >> Subject: Re: [Openstack-i18n] I18n wiki page is translatable
>> >  > >
>> >  > >
>> >  > >>
>> >  > >> Hello Akihiro,
>> >  > >>
>> >  > >> Actually I suggested a translatable I18nTeam wiki page [1] for
>> > Korean
>> >  > >> during last Tokyo Design Summit.
>> >  > >> After saying it, I found that there might be a problem in Japanese
>> > local
>> >  > >> team
>> >  > >> because Japanese language team already used /ja page, as you
>> > mentioned and
>> >  > >> which would make conflict with translation functionality in
>> > OpenStack
>> >  > >> wiki.
>> >  > >>
>> >  > >> Let me first say why Korean translation page for I18nTeam is
>> > needed and
>> >  > >> how Korean translation team wants to use two wiki pages
>> > separately:
>> >  > >>
>> >  > >>   1) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ko
>> >  > >>   : To provide Korean guys with official I18nTeam introduction
>> > wiki page
>> >  > >>   : I think "Local Translation Teams" section is needed because
>> > this
>> >  > >> information is
>> >  > >>     beneficial with the knowledge of the various language team
>> > activities.
>> >  > >>
>> >  > >>   2) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/team/ko_KR
>> >  > >>    (I found that Daisy moved from .../ko_KR to .../team/ko_KR.
>> > Thank you!)
>> >  > >>   : To introduce Korean translation team with details and our
>> > specific
>> >  > >> translation rules
>> >  > >>   : Providing links for OpenStack I18n official introduction wiki
>> > page &
>> >  > >> its translation
>> >  > >>
>> >  > >> I would like to respect I18nTeam official wiki page, and this
>> >  > >> information is written in English.
>> >  > >> In my opinion, translating this page would more clearly advertise
>> >  > >> OpenStack I18n overall activities to more Korean.
>> >  > >>
>> >  > >> This requirement and need might be different from various local
>> >  > >> translation teams, I think,
>> >  > >> and I also would like to respect the ways Japanese team used more
>> > than 1
>> >  > >> year.
>> >  > >>
>> >  > >> So I would like to suggest not to include "<languages />" tag on
>> > [1] .
>> >  > >> As you know, OpenStack Release Note wiki pages such as [2]
>> >  > >> contain "<languages />" tag and displays different language
>> > translated
>> >  > >> pages on the top part.
>> >  > >>
>> >  > >> I think this suggestion would satisfy different needs from various
>> >  > >> language translation teams.
>> >  > >> However, if https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam page includes
>> >  > >> "<languages />" tag,
>> >  > >> then it would not fit to not only Japanese translation team, but
>> > also
>> >  > >> other teams such as French, Polish and so on.
>> >  > >> For Korean translation team, our official page contains the
>> > translated
>> >  > >> I18nTeam link so it would be okay.
>> >  > >>
>> >  > >> I am not sure, but Daisy might already think so Daisy only moved
>> > from
>> >  > >> .../ko_KR to .../team/ko_KR, and
>> >  > >> did not include "<languages />" tag on [1] :)
>> >  > >>
>> >  > >> This is just my suggestion not to conflict with your team and to
>> >  > >> accomplish our team requirement,
>> >  > >>   and I would like to listen Daisy's opinion and other language
>> > teams'
>> >  > >> opinions.
>> >  > >>
>> >  > >> [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam
>> >  > >> [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty
>> >  > >>
>> >  > >>
>> >  > >> With many thanks,
>> >  > >>
>> >  > >> /Ian
>> >  > >>
>> >  > >> Akihiro Motoki wrote on 11/10/2015 8:48 PM:
>> >  > >> > In addition, Japanese team maintains the original contents which
>> >  > >> > are differ from the English version of I18nTeam page.
>> >  > >> > Before enabling translation for I18nTeam, I would like to see a
>> > solution
>> >  > >> > for language specific content.
>> >  > >> >
>> >  > >> >
>> >  > >> > 2015-11-10 20:45 GMT+09:00 Akihiro Motoki <amotoki at gmail.com>:
>> >  > >> >> I noticed the existing language team page cannot be edited.
>> >  > >> >> For example, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ja exists
>> > from
>> >  > >> >> more than one year ago.
>> >  > >> >> After this change, we can no longer edit the original page.
>> >  > >> >> What should we do?
>> >  > >> >>
>> >  > >> >> In addition, I18nTeam wiki page contains contents which is not
>> >  > >> >> appropriate for translation,
>> >  > >> >> for example, "Local Translation Teams" section.
>> >  > >> >> As a local team coordinator, I don't like to display this
>> > section in a
>> >  > >> >> translated version.
>> >  > >> >>
>> >  > >> >> Thanks,
>> >  > >> >> Akihiro
>> >  > >> >>
>> >  > >> >> 2015-11-10 18:11 GMT+09:00 Ying Chun Guo <guoyingc at cn.ibm.com>:
>> >  > >> >>> Hi,
>> >  > >> >>>
>> >  > >> >>> As requested by Korean team, the wiki page of I18nTeam is
>> >  > >> translatable now.
>> >  > >> >>> If you want to translate this page into your own language,
>> >  > >> please go ahead.
>> >  > >> >>> Thank you.
>> >  > >> >>>
>> >  > >> >>> Best regards
>> >  > >> >>> Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)
>> >  > >> >>>
>> >  > >> >>>
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>> >  > >> --
>> >  > >> /Ian
>> >  > >>
>> >  > >
>> >  >
>> >
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