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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Oops.. I forgot one more thing:<br>
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      One thing I have not found yet the solution is that <br>
      all install-guides (install-guide-debian, install-guide-obs,
      install-guide-rdo, install-guide-ubuntu)<br>
      use the same title "Install Guide".<br>
      <br>
      It is because they share the same conf.py on some variables<br>
      (might be "pdf_documents").<br>
      <br>
      Tool teams, would it be possible to use different values on
      conf.py variables<br>
      for different install guides using the same conf.py?<br>
      I need your help :)<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      With many thanks,<br>
      <br>
      /Ian<br>
      <br>
      Ian Y. Choi wrote on 2/8/2017 11:01 PM:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks all for kind comments!<br>
        <br>
        Now I have divided into three different groups to complete the
        spec in Ocata cycle:<br>
        <br>
        1. Moving current proposed LaTeX style to openstackdocstheme<br>
         : <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
          href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430263/">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430263/</a><br>
        <br>
        - After then, releasing a new version for openstackdocstheme
        might be needed to apply into the third group.<br>
        <br>
        2. Using Liberation font as English PDF documents<br>
         : <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
          href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430549/">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430549/</a><br>
        <br>
        - I have seen
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/clouddocs-maven-plugin/log/src/main/resources/fonts">http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/clouddocs-maven-plugin/log/src/main/resources/fonts</a><br>
          , but there is no information why CartoGothic font was
        selected on there.<br>
          IMO configuring different fonts for translated PDFs would be
        possible, but I would like to<br>
          implement this as a next step, since there might be some more
        consideration to fully implement this.<br>
          (Writing a new spec for Pike cycle would be a good idea I
        think.)<br>
        <br>
        3. Applying LaTeX style using openstackdocstheme<br>
         : <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
          href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427826/">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427826/</a>
        will be adjusted after merging the first patch.<br>
        <br>
        - Current is WIP and I think it would be nice to remove WIP
        after the new version of openstackdocstheme will be released<br>
          and the patch will make use of the new version of
        openstackdocstheme.<br>
        - Some (e.g., a few cases for too many characters in a line)
        might be enhanced by patching on the 1st group,<br>
          while others would be enhanced by adding more concise
        directives in each rst document<br>
          (e.g., tabularcolumns directive).<br>
        <br>
        The patches in three groups are somewhat inter-related, and also
        reviewing them<br>
        with different perspectives like tooling, styling, and UXs would
        make PDF implementation more flawless :)<br>
        <br>
        <br>
        Anne Gentle wrote on 2/7/2017 11:31 PM:<br>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Ian
              Y. Choi <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:ianyrchoi@gmail.com" target="_blank">ianyrchoi@gmail.com</a>></span>
              wrote:<br>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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                rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hello,<br>
                <br>
                Me and SeongSoo have been collaborating a lot to apply
                better customized styles<br>
                to PDF documents from rst-based guide documents (spec is
                available at [1]).<br>
                <br>
                Applying styles from documents with a basic pdflatex
                theme (example: [2, 3, 4]) have not been easy for us.<br>
                However, thanks to the new sphinx version support [5],
                lots of latest styling options described<br>
                in Sphinx documentation [6] are now well-applicable to
                openstack-manuals!<br>
                <br>
                The draft PDF styling results are available at [7].<br>
                You can check new PDF files by clicking
                "gate-openstack-manuals-tox-do<wbr>c-publish-checkbuild"<br>
                and "(pdf)" links for arch-design, ha-guide,
                image-guide, and user-guide (for example: [8]).<br>
                <br>
                More detailed descriptions are available at Etherpad
                [9].<br>
                <br>
                I would like to ask team members to review the new draft
                PDF styling results,<br>
                and if you are fine, then me and SeongSoo want to
                migrate current python and latex styling files<br>
                into openstackdocstheme and then polish [7] to make use
                of a new openstackdocstheme<br>
                with PDF theme & styles.<br>
                <br>
                Also, since I am not familiar with the following issues,
                please also share your idea & thoughts on:<br>
                 - In conf.py, version numbers are specified such as
                "0.0.1" and "0.9".<br>
                   Will it be so important for PDFs? I think just
                "master" or release names such as "Newton" and "Ocata"<br>
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              <div>Depends on the type of guide. For admin guides and
                other openstack-manuals guides, the grouped release name
                is sufficient. However, for Client guides like
                python-openstackclient, that version number is crucial
                for bug reporting and what features are available in a
                release. If your PDF generation scope is for
                openstack-manuals, release names are fine. For
                number-relevant releases, please ensure the release
                number is used.</div>
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      +1<br>
      I have thought just for install-guides and network-guides, but
      yes, the implementation method can be easily extended<br>
      to api-site and client guides. Fortunately, the variation can be
      accomplished easily by just changing "version" variable in
      conf.py!<br>
      <br>
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              <div> </div>
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                0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">    would deliver
                more contextual meanings to document readers.<br>
                 - I suggest not to use chapter and section numbers for
                PDFs.<br>
                   Current rst documents are written for the best
                presentation with HTMLs but current chapter and section<br>
                   notations prevent PDFs from automatically parsing
                appropriate numbers. For example, [2-4] denote<br>
                   number "1" for "Abstract", "3" for "Appendix", and so
                on.<br>
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              <div>I think that's fine. Page numbers are sufficient as
                is anything the parser gives us now.</div>
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              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
                0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">  - Could somebody
                recommend to select open source font(s) suitable to the
                PDFs?<br>
                <br>
                <br>
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              <div>I looked up the history and we had to choose open
                source fonts per language output. So test the font with
                translated docs also. We used to use <span
                  style="font-size:12.8px">CartoGothic-Std for the
                  English font. For Japanese it was </span><span
                  style="font-size:12.8px">TakaoGothic </span><span
                  class="gmail-il"
                  style="font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">font.
                  The thread with a lot of info is here: <a
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              <div><span class="gmail-il"
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              <div><span class="gmail-il"
                  style="font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Nice
                  work Ian, much appreciated.</span></div>
              <div><span class="gmail-il"
                  style="font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Anne</span></div>
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                0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> With many thanks,<br>
                <br>
                /Ian<br>
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                [1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://specs.openstack.org/ope<wbr>nstack/docs-specs/specs/ocata/<wbr>build-pdf-from-rst-guides.html</a><br>
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                  href="http://docs.openstack.org/arch-design/ArchGuideRst.pdf"
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                  href="http://docs.openstack.org/ha-guide/HAGuide.pdf"
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                [4] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://docs.openstack.org/draft/install-guide-ubuntu/InstallGuide.pdf"
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                [5] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419110/2/test-requirements.txt"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org/#<wbr>/c/419110/2/test-requirements.<wbr>txt</a><br>
                [6] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/latex.html"
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                [7] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427826/"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org/#<wbr>/c/427826/</a><br>
                [8] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://docs-draft.openstack.org/26/427826/13/check/gate-openstack-manuals-tox-doc-publish-checkbuild/d8ffd03//publish-docs/"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://docs-draft.openstack.or<wbr>g/26/427826/13/check/gate-open<wbr>stack-manuals-tox-doc-publish-<wbr>checkbuild/d8ffd03//publish-do<wbr>cs/</a><br>
                [9] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/docs-build-pdf-from-rst-styling"
                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://etherpad.openstack.org<wbr>/p/docs-build-pdf-from-rst-sty<wbr>ling</a><br>
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