<html>
  <head>
    <meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv="Content-Type">
  </head>
  <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks all for kind comments!<br>
      <br>
      Now I have divided into three different groups to complete the
      spec in Ocata cycle:<br>
      <br>
      1. Moving current proposed LaTeX style to openstackdocstheme<br>
       : <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430263/">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430263/</a><br>
      <br>
      - After then, releasing a new version for openstackdocstheme might
      be needed to apply into the third group.<br>
      <br>
      2. Using Liberation font as English PDF documents<br>
       : <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430549/">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430549/</a><br>
      <br>
      - I have seen
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/clouddocs-maven-plugin/log/src/main/resources/fonts">http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/clouddocs-maven-plugin/log/src/main/resources/fonts</a><br>
        , but there is no information why CartoGothic font was selected
      on there.<br>
        IMO configuring different fonts for translated PDFs would be
      possible, but I would like to<br>
        implement this as a next step, since there might be some more
      consideration to fully implement this.<br>
        (Writing a new spec for Pike cycle would be a good idea I
      think.)<br>
      <br>
      3. Applying LaTeX style using openstackdocstheme<br>
       : <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427826/">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427826/</a> will be adjusted after
      merging the first patch.<br>
      <br>
      - Current is WIP and I think it would be nice to remove WIP after
      the new version of openstackdocstheme will be released<br>
        and the patch will make use of the new version of
      openstackdocstheme.<br>
      - Some (e.g., a few cases for too many characters in a line) might
      be enhanced by patching on the 1st group,<br>
        while others would be enhanced by adding more concise directives
      in each rst document<br>
        (e.g., tabularcolumns directive).<br>
      <br>
      The patches in three groups are somewhat inter-related, and also
      reviewing them<br>
      with different perspectives like tooling, styling, and UXs would
      make PDF implementation more flawless :)<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Anne Gentle wrote on 2/7/2017 11:31 PM:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAD0KtVHwqs7JHAOaY-RCKwBNED0tSMjAOsU1K9p8UDvswp_h9g@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr"><br>
        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Ian
            Y. Choi <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:ianyrchoi@gmail.com" target="_blank">ianyrchoi@gmail.com</a>></span>
            wrote:<br>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
              0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
              rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hello,<br>
              <br>
              Me and SeongSoo have been collaborating a lot to apply
              better customized styles<br>
              to PDF documents from rst-based guide documents (spec is
              available at [1]).<br>
              <br>
              Applying styles from documents with a basic pdflatex theme
              (example: [2, 3, 4]) have not been easy for us.<br>
              However, thanks to the new sphinx version support [5],
              lots of latest styling options described<br>
              in Sphinx documentation [6] are now well-applicable to
              openstack-manuals!<br>
              <br>
              The draft PDF styling results are available at [7].<br>
              You can check new PDF files by clicking
              "gate-openstack-manuals-tox-do<wbr>c-publish-checkbuild"<br>
              and "(pdf)" links for arch-design, ha-guide, image-guide,
              and user-guide (for example: [8]).<br>
              <br>
              More detailed descriptions are available at Etherpad [9].<br>
              <br>
              I would like to ask team members to review the new draft
              PDF styling results,<br>
              and if you are fine, then me and SeongSoo want to migrate
              current python and latex styling files<br>
              into openstackdocstheme and then polish [7] to make use of
              a new openstackdocstheme<br>
              with PDF theme & styles.<br>
              <br>
              Also, since I am not familiar with the following issues,
              please also share your idea & thoughts on:<br>
               - In conf.py, version numbers are specified such as
              "0.0.1" and "0.9".<br>
                 Will it be so important for PDFs? I think just "master"
              or release names such as "Newton" and "Ocata"<br>
            </blockquote>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Depends on the type of guide. For admin guides and
              other openstack-manuals guides, the grouped release name
              is sufficient. However, for Client guides like
              python-openstackclient, that version number is crucial for
              bug reporting and what features are available in a
              release. If your PDF generation scope is for
              openstack-manuals, release names are fine. For
              number-relevant releases, please ensure the release number
              is used.</div>
          </div>
        </div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    +1<br>
    I have thought just for install-guides and network-guides, but yes,
    the implementation method can be easily extended<br>
    to api-site and client guides. Fortunately, the variation can be
    accomplished easily by just changing "version" variable in conf.py!<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAD0KtVHwqs7JHAOaY-RCKwBNED0tSMjAOsU1K9p8UDvswp_h9g@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">
        <div class="gmail_extra">
          <div class="gmail_quote">
            <div> </div>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
              0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
              rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                 would deliver more contextual meanings to document
              readers.<br>
               - I suggest not to use chapter and section numbers for
              PDFs.<br>
                 Current rst documents are written for the best
              presentation with HTMLs but current chapter and section<br>
                 notations prevent PDFs from automatically parsing
              appropriate numbers. For example, [2-4] denote<br>
                 number "1" for "Abstract", "3" for "Appendix", and so
              on.<br>
            </blockquote>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>I think that's fine. Page numbers are sufficient as is
              anything the parser gives us now.</div>
            <div> </div>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
              0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
              rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
               - Could somebody recommend to select open source font(s)
              suitable to the PDFs?<br>
              <br>
              <br>
            </blockquote>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>I looked up the history and we had to choose open
              source fonts per language output. So test the font with
              translated docs also. We used to use <span
                style="font-size:12.8px">CartoGothic-Std for the English
                font. For Japanese it was </span><span
                style="font-size:12.8px">TakaoGothic </span><span
                class="gmail-il"
                style="font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">font.
                The thread with a lot of info is here: <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2013-May/001583.html">http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2013-May/001583.html</a></span></div>
            <div><span class="gmail-il"
                style="font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br>
              </span></div>
            <div><span class="gmail-il"
                style="font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Nice
                work Ian, much appreciated.</span></div>
            <div><span class="gmail-il"
                style="font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Anne</span></div>
            <div> </div>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
              0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
              rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
              With many thanks,<br>
              <br>
              /Ian<br>
              <br>
              [1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/ocata/build-pdf-from-rst-guides.html"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://specs.openstack.org/ope<wbr>nstack/docs-specs/specs/ocata/<wbr>build-pdf-from-rst-guides.html</a><br>
              [2] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://docs.openstack.org/arch-design/ArchGuideRst.pdf"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://docs.openstack.org/arch<wbr>-design/ArchGuideRst.pdf</a><br>
              [3] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://docs.openstack.org/ha-guide/HAGuide.pdf"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://docs.openstack.org/ha-g<wbr>uide/HAGuide.pdf</a><br>
              [4] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://docs.openstack.org/draft/install-guide-ubuntu/InstallGuide.pdf"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://docs.openstack.org/draf<wbr>t/install-guide-ubuntu/Install<wbr>Guide.pdf</a><br>
              [5] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419110/2/test-requirements.txt"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org/#<wbr>/c/419110/2/test-requirements.<wbr>txt</a><br>
              [6] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/latex.html"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/s<wbr>table/latex.html</a><br>
              [7] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427826/"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org/#<wbr>/c/427826/</a><br>
              [8] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://docs-draft.openstack.org/26/427826/13/check/gate-openstack-manuals-tox-doc-publish-checkbuild/d8ffd03//publish-docs/"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://docs-draft.openstack.or<wbr>g/26/427826/13/check/gate-open<wbr>stack-manuals-tox-doc-publish-<wbr>checkbuild/d8ffd03//publish-do<wbr>cs/</a><br>
              [9] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/docs-build-pdf-from-rst-styling"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://etherpad.openstack.org<wbr>/p/docs-build-pdf-from-rst-sty<wbr>ling</a><br>
              <br>
              ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
              OpenStack-docs mailing list<br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:OpenStack-docs@lists.openstack.org"
                target="_blank">OpenStack-docs@lists.openstack<wbr>.org</a><br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-docs"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi<wbr>-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstac<wbr>k-docs</a><br>
            </blockquote>
          </div>
          <br>
          <br clear="all">
          <div><br>
          </div>
          -- <br>
          <div
class="gmail-m_-4310550665490738873gmail-m_3597669042479164930gmail_signature">
            <div dir="ltr">
              <div>
                <div dir="ltr">
                  <div dir="ltr">
                    <div dir="ltr">
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Read my blog: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="https://justwriteclick.com"
                          target="_blank">justwrite.click</a></div>
                      <div>Subscribe to Docs|Code: <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://docslikecode.com" target="_blank">docslikecode.com</a> </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
        </div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p><br>
    </p>
  </body>
</html>