<div dir="ltr">Hello,<div><br>I agree with Roger in this case. We do not need to explicitly mention Virtualbox or any other hypervisor for this. Simply pointing people towards training-labs project should be enough and easy to maintain.</div><div><br></div><div>Training-labs is almost caught up with install-guides. Currently Kilo is almost done and in the recent future Liberty support will also be merged.</div><div><br></div><div>Other thoughts, maintaining VirtualBox/other hyp. guides is not a good solution. I remember having similar conversations with Anne when I was trying to do something similar.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,<br>Pranav</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Matthew Dorn <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:madorn@gmail.com" target="_blank">madorn@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Just a note that this patch is install-guide specific.<br>
<br>
It shows newcomers to OpenStack how they can use VirtualBox to completely emulate the environment outlined in the install-guide. It allows the user to enter all the same networking values to eliminate confusion and reduce complexity.<br>
<br>
As previously mentioned by others, probably not appropriate for official install-guide docs but perhaps a blog post.<br>
<br>
Matt Dorn<br>
Rackspace Training<br>
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> On Nov 14, 2015, at 12:34 AM, Roger Luethi <<a href="mailto:rl@patchworkscience.org">rl@patchworkscience.org</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> The training-labs project [1] already provides an automated way of setting<br>
> up a VirtualBox (soon also KVM) VM cluster for OpenStack training. It works<br>
> on Linux, OS X, and Windows.<br>
><br>
> The user can stop right there and proceed with a manual installation, or<br>
> have the scripts do the complete deployment as described in the<br>
> install-guide.<br>
><br>
> In other words, the user can get:<br>
> 1) just the empty VMs, set up for OpenStack<br>
> 2) VMs with the OS installed, but without OpenStack<br>
> 3) VMs with OS and OpenStack ready to use<br>
><br>
> Current default is 3), but we can provide configuration templates for each.<br>
><br>
> Why don't you point to the training-labs project instead?<br>
><br>
> Roger<br>
><br>
> [1] <a href="http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/training-labs/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/training-labs/</a><br>
><br>
>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 17:08:13 -0700, Matt Kassawara wrote:<br>
>> A rather significant number of people deploy OpenStack for the first time<br>
>> using VMs rather than bare metal. Several cycles ago, we decided to provide<br>
>> some basic notes (e.g., disable MAC address filtering and/or enable<br>
>> promiscuous mode depending on the hypervisor) rather than developing<br>
>> step-by-step instructions for those using VMs for the following reasons:<br>
>><br>
>> 1) Given our proactive approach of updating and testing the installation<br>
>> content for each release, we would need additional resources to reasonably<br>
>> test it using VMs.<br>
>> 2) We would need additional resources to maintain the VM deployment content<br>
>> including bug triage.<br>
>> 3) Supporting one hypervisor means requests to support additional<br>
>> hypervisors, each requiring additional resources.<br>
>> 4) Not sure how to handle potential license incompatibilities.<br>
>> 5) Most hypervisors use GUIs and screen shots don't translate.<br>
>><br>
>> A patch currently resides in the queue [1] that provides step-by-step<br>
>> instructions for deploying VMs using VirtualBox. We need to discuss the<br>
>> possibility of merging this patch into the installation guide and how to<br>
>> address these (and potentially other) issues around it.<br>
>><br>
>> Matt<br>
>><br>
>> [1] <a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241320/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241320/</a><br>
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