<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14849"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14966">My opinion is that the HA Guide can reasonable expect an audience that is</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14849" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14968">a little bit sophisticated and so can handle some distro-specific details sprinkled</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14849" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14970">around. In fact, I rather like that -- it makes it easier to figure out what the distro-</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14849" dir="ltr"><span>specific issues are.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14849" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14849" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14974">As I understand it, the Install Guides are split by distro because they are written</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14849" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14976">to be appropriate for people who are neophytes and they embed a lot of distro-</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14849" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14987">specific admin information that is tangential to OpenStack but people may need.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14849" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14849" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_15131">Bogdan, you've spent a lot of time on the phone with the people who are the target</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14849" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_15133">audience for this book and I know from experience that you have awfully good judgement</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14849" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_15135">about the information that need to be included. So, if there is a tidbit that you think is</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14849" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_15137">appropriate, I'm pretty confident that it should be included. Your knowledge and judgement</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14849" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_15139">is one of the great advantages of having you take over this project!</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14849" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14849" dir="ltr"><span>meg</span></div><br> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14983"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14982"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14981"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14980"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_14985"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_15046"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Lana Brindley <openstack@lanabrindley.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> openstack-docs@lists.openstack.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, October 17, 2015 6:38 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [OpenStack-docs] [ha-guide] Distro specific details to improve UX<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_15054"><br>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>Hash: SHA256<br><br>I don't see a big problem with mentioning some OS-specific stuff in cases like 235893. It's useful troubleshooting info in this case. <br><br>L<br><br>On 17/10/15 00:36, Matt Kassawara wrote:<br>> Adding the review here...<br>> <br>> <a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235893/" target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235893/</a><br>> <br>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 8:32 AM, Bogdan Dobrelya <<a ymailto="mailto:bdobrelia@mirantis.com" href="mailto:bdobrelia@mirantis.com">bdobrelia@mirantis.com</a>><br>> wrote:<br>> <br>>><br>>> Hello.<br>>> There are UX bugs, like [0], [1]. These might make a user following the<br>>> guide steps very sad because the corosync/pacemaker services will refuse<br>>> to start. How should we deal with such issues?<br>>><br>>> May be sometimes, the distro specific info should be accepted into the<br>>> HA guide?<br>>><br>>> Or should we just mention there are distro specific configuraion steps<br>>> exist and leave a user on his own in his/her search of external docs<br>>> explainging the distro specific steps TBD?<br>>><br>>> Note, the same question applies to the distro specific pcs/crm cluster<br>>> configuration tools.<br>>><br>>> [0] <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1505964" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1505964</a><br>>> [1] <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1506004" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1506004</a><br>>><br>>> --<br>>> Best regards,<br>>> Bogdan Dobrelya,<br>>> Irc #bogdando<br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> OpenStack-docs mailing list<br>>> <a ymailto="mailto:OpenStack-docs@lists.openstack.org" href="mailto:OpenStack-docs@lists.openstack.org">OpenStack-docs@lists.openstack.org</a><br>>> <a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-docs" target="_blank">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-docs</a><br>>><br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> OpenStack-docs mailing list<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:OpenStack-docs@lists.openstack.org" href="mailto:OpenStack-docs@lists.openstack.org" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_15056">OpenStack-docs@lists.openstack.org</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-docs" target="_blank" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445120299188_15058">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-docs</a><br>> <br><br>- -- <br>Lana Brindley<br>Technical Writer<br>Rackspace Cloud Builders Australia<br><a href="http://lanabrindley.com/" target="_blank">http://lanabrindley.com</a><br>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>Version: GnuPG v2<br>Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - <a href="http://www.enigmail.net/" target="_blank">http://www.enigmail.net/</a><br><br>iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWIvgWAAoJELppzVb4+KUy/ZwIAMZz8iPv25hjAsj9g/JOgyWt<br>oJXZLTVYfyxSClC0lXqId9IIDYd74/1I1NwyJi6UmKPIAKOIhtgnGKRe+Jucp5yo<br>8c0CetOlRJB+lzJ99R0bE84U39Jujbz5MtoLowGWmBJBn6ExKICHzm2PdisxGdog<br>OLZXTPsI6nrPPhzxSKkbrzrnop1if34HZqdcSZszmkqtmFMMhPjs6EAD9L6Y4ZG0<br>hhN0U+uEFmPKq4KBxYzXsEh+DrgVbrxPf7p/DkJEIFXHqa86aooRncFTKgiDApwd<br>sLcGVeF6I2uqy4KlvZaVvIdc/AEloMzLUjoXWy6HyphvOzVPb26erdAYn5/XLbo=<br>=Jiln<br>-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>OpenStack-docs mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:OpenStack-docs@lists.openstack.org" href="mailto:OpenStack-docs@lists.openstack.org">OpenStack-docs@lists.openstack.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-docs" target="_blank">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-docs</a><br><br><br></div> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div></body></html>