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<br><div><div>On Feb 23, 2014, at 1:00 PM, Sean Roberts <<a href="mailto:seanrob@yahoo-inc.com">seanrob@yahoo-inc.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<div>NexusIS guys and myself did some deep thought on the training guides last Friday. Our output is here <a href="https://docs.google.com/a/yahoo-inc.com/document/d/1QiZ_PJTIFwKOmHPYhtez0TTEXHUb1r21OV0-PoNN45U/edit?usp=docslist_api">https://docs.google.com/a/yahoo-inc.com/document/d/1QiZ_PJTIFwKOmHPYhtez0TTEXHUb1r21OV0-PoNN45U/edit?usp=docslist_api</a></div>
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<div>My epiphanical moment is captured in a gdoc comment below. </div>
<div>"<span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica;">This is an important point to come to an agreement on.</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica;">
</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica;">For skill translation from a non-agile engineer or operator to agile DevOps mindset, the time and effort has large variances. I'm leaning towards not teaching the agile skill transition in this guide.
Rather, we have separate skill transition courses like hackbright, TDD, upstream university that focus on that. The developer guide can then focus on openstack APIs and CI pipeline instruction for the 8-10 days we have the students attention. We still use
elements from hackbright, TDD, and upstream university. We just don't attempt to teach the agile theories here.</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Helvetica;"> </span><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 12px; font-family: Helvetica;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Loic and others, what do you think?"</span></div>
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