<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Rich, let me take another real world use case. <div><br></div><div>First, let me reiterate. Stating copyright is for the protection of the individual developer as well as the corporations contributing. It elevates visibility of how owns copyright.</div><div><br></div><div><b>Real world use case - Aptira and Training-Guides</b></div><div><br></div><div>Sean and I started a project within Docs a while back. This goals of this project is to provide Open Source training materials to the community. To achieve these goal we used a mix of content included within OpenStack documentation. About halfway through the effort, one of the guides that we used for a large amount of content got refactored, forcing us to pivot. </div><div><br></div><div>Aptira had been participating significantly at that point, and had <b>contributed their own training programs to the effort. </b>That corporate contribution of significant content was key to training-guides moving forward. Without a clear a and concise copyright I don’t think it would have been possible.</div><div><br></div><div>Either way, I feel like we are debating a philosophy point vs the legal question that was posed earlier. The action that comes out of this discussion is both guidance from the foundations legal council and the opportunity for someone to submit a talk exploring these items. </div><div><div>
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<br><div><div>On Jan 14, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Rich Bowen <<a href="mailto:rbowen@redhat.com">rbowen@redhat.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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Well, as I said earlier, I believe that the spirit of the Apache
license is that you ALWAYS say yes, to any request to reuse, remix,
repurpose, re-whatever your documentation content.<br>
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If we believe that the Apache license expresses our wishes about our
project, and if we understand what the license says, then we have no
reason ever to say no when someone asks to quote from, paraphrase,
or copy our docs wholesale.<br>
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Or our source code, for that matter.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/14/2014 02:54 PM, Nermina Miller
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Hence my questions :) How DO you deal with such requests?
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Nermina Miller wrote:<br>
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When I worked on manuals for an international
association, I used to check the copyright policy of
each company whose material we used for support. They
varied. In some cases, you could paraphrase, in some
only quote. They also had specific notes you were
required to use whether in text, footnote, or reference
list. So, there are some specifics that are important to
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Absolutely, but I presume that none of those products were
Open Source. That changes the game.<br>
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We're not a software company. We're an Open Source
project.<br>
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