<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Andreas Jaeger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aj@suse.com" target="_blank">aj@suse.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">On 09/30/2013 03:47 PM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:<br>
> On 09/30/2013 03:32 PM, Anne Gentle wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 4:12 AM, Andreas Jaeger <<a href="mailto:aj@suse.com">aj@suse.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:aj@suse.com">aj@suse.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Looking at the license of our manuals, I'm a bit confused.<br>
>><br>
>> For example<br>
>> <a href="http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/" target="_blank">http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/admin/content/</a> and<br>
>> <a href="http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/" target="_blank">http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/</a> both have Apache<br>
>> License and a Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 3.0 License but<br>
>> the wording suggests to me that the Apache License is the one to use<br>
>> (correct?).<br>
>><br>
>> Newer manuals like the user-guide only have the Creative Commons:<br>
>> Image Guide:<br>
>> <a href="http://docs.openstack.org/image-guide/content/" target="_blank">http://docs.openstack.org/image-guide/content/</a><br>
>> End User Guide:<br>
>> <a href="http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/" target="_blank">http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/</a><br>
>><br>
>> Is this really the right license - or was that done by accident?<br>
>> If the CC license is correct, will it work when we import content via<br>
>> the autodocs from other OpenStack projects?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Here's what I know.<br>
>><br>
>> You can apply Apache 2.0 to code easily, but it's harder to apply to<br>
>> docs exactly. We do apply a blanket Apache 2.0 statement for our<br>
>> documentation, but we have also brought in content that was licensed<br>
>> CC-BY-SA 3.0.<br>
>><br>
>> At a OpenStack Foundation Board Meeting October 2012 we successfully had<br>
>> the board approve use of CC-BY 3.0 for all documentation contributions.<br>
>> Here are the official minutes.<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/15Oct2012BoardMinutes#Approval_of_the_CCBY_License_for_Documentation" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/15Oct2012BoardMinutes#Approval_of_the_CCBY_License_for_Documentation</a><br>
>><br>
>> So the docbook bk files can be updated to<br>
>> use <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/us/" target="_blank">http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/us/</a> -- however I haven't<br>
>> investigated whether the tool chain enables cc-by instead of cc-by-sa. I<br>
>> think some action items we can take now are:<br>
>><br>
>> 1. Determine if cc-by is a viable option in the book file by testing the<br>
>> maven plugin.<br>
><br>
> I checked the sources, it should work.<br>
><br>
> The End User Guid is already under cc-by - and looking at<br>
> <a href="http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/" target="_blank">http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/</a> this works fine.<br>
><br>
>> 2. Patch the books that were created after Oct 2012 with cc-by in the<br>
>> book file, such as the Image Guide, End User Guide, and Admin User Guide.<br>
><br>
> I'll send a patch in a few minutes.<br>
<br>
</div></div>I'll do:<br>
<br>
Remove:<br>
admin-guide-cloud <legalnotice role="apache2"><br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This one is where I'm unsure we can proceed without legal guidance. The sources gave their content under Apache 2.0 license. Is there a conversion? That's where I want a lawyer to tell us.</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Change to cc-by (the guide had both licenses):<br>
bk-admin-guide-cloud.xml: <legalnotice role="cc-by-sa"><br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Same here.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Keep for now:<br>
bk-config-ref.xml: <legalnotice role="apache2"><br>
bk_openstackinstallguide.xml: <legalnotice role="apache2"><br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes keep for now, until we have legal guidance.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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No change needed:<br>
bk-imageguide.xml: <legalnotice role="cc-by"><br>
bk_openstack-sec-guide.xml: <legalnotice role="cc-by"><br>
bk-admin-user-guide.xml: <legalnotice role="cc-by"><br>
bk-user-guide.xml: <legalnotice role="cc-by"><br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Ok, great! Thanks for checking on the output. </div><div><br></div><div>Anne</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Anne Gentle<br><a href="mailto:annegentle@justwriteclick.com" target="_blank">annegentle@justwriteclick.com</a>
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