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    <p>A flat network for LB management should work as well. However,
      the LB management network has nothing to do with your VMs (except
      the amphorae), and it's unclear to me what ports you are adding to
      them and the Neutron router. There is no router for a flat
      network. <br>
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    <p>You seem to imply that your machines (controllers, computes) are
      virtual. My experience with Kolla is also in a virtual
      environment. I had to abandon VLAN or flat LB management networks
      because I was not competent enough to solve the networking
      problems outside of Kolla and went for the tenant network solution
      that I shared. <br>
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    <p>Bernd<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2021/08/10 9:31 PM, Chris Lyons
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Thank you!  I am trying the path of adding
          a separate physical (although its really virtual..) network
          that will be exclusively for lb-mgmt….that would work also,
          correct?  I added a port to my virtual router and the added a
          corresponding port to each openstack vm.  It sounds like only
          control and compute nodes need it but I was going to add it to
          everything to start and then eliminate one by one once it
          worked. 
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Would that approach also work?<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
              </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Bernd
              Bausch <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:berndbausch@gmail.com"><berndbausch@gmail.com></a><br>
              <b>Date: </b>Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 2:39 AM<br>
              <b>To: </b>Chris Lyons <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:chris@lyonsgroup.family"><chris@lyonsgroup.family></a>,
              <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org">openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org</a>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org"><openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org></a><br>
              <b>Subject: </b>Re: Octavia<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">The stacktrace shows that Octavia can't
          reach an Amphora. I suppose you get this log when trying to
          create a loadbalancer? If so, most likely the Amphora
          management network is not set up correctly.
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>The difficulty is that Octavia workers, which are <i>processes
          </i>running on the controllers, need to have access to the
          same management network as the Amphora
          <i>instances</i>. If you implement the management network as a
          normal tenant network, some non-trivial manual Openvswitch
          configuration is required. See
          <a
href="https://docs.openstack.org/octavia/latest/install/install-ubuntu.html#install-and-configure-components"
            moz-do-not-send="true">
https://docs.openstack.org/octavia/latest/install/install-ubuntu.html#install-and-configure-components</a>
          for instructions. In production settings, usually a VLAN is
          used, which is easy to access from controller processes.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>I succeeded running Octavia on a Kolla cluster with three-way
          controllers, with a tenant network (VXLAN-based) for amphora
          management. My notes are attached (they are tailored to my
          configuration, of course).<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>Bernd.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal">On 2021/08/09 10:57 AM, Chris Lyons
            wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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        <p>Well…it gets. A lot further….  I see this error now…. Im
          looking around to see if it’s a security group missing or if
          there is some other setting I missed.  Im not seeing any
          scripts to prep the env…usually there is something like that
          if it’s a security group…anyone know?<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>...<o:p></o:p></p>
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            style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Menlo;color:black">2021-08-08
            21:22:35.965 27 ERROR
            octavia.controller.worker.v1.controller_worker Traceback
            (most recent call last):</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Menlo;color:black">2021-08-08
            21:22:35.965 27 ERROR
            octavia.controller.worker.v1.controller_worker   File
"/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/taskflow/engines/action_engine/executor.py",
            line 53, in _execute_task</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            octavia.controller.worker.v1.controller_worker     result =
            task.execute(**arguments)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            21:22:35.965 27 ERROR
            octavia.controller.worker.v1.controller_worker   File
"/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/octavia/controller/worker/v1/tasks/amphora_driver_tasks.py",
            line 424, in execute</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            21:22:35.965 27 ERROR
            octavia.controller.worker.v1.controller_worker     amp_info
            = self.amphora_driver.get_info(amphora)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            21:22:35.965 27 ERROR
            octavia.controller.worker.v1.controller_worker   File
"/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/octavia/amphorae/drivers/haproxy/rest_api_driver.py",
            line 373, in get_info</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            21:22:35.965 27 ERROR
            octavia.controller.worker.v1.controller_worker     amphora,
            raise_retry_exception=raise_retry_exception)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            21:22:35.965 27 ERROR
            octavia.controller.worker.v1.controller_worker   File
"/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/octavia/amphorae/drivers/haproxy/rest_api_driver.py",
            line 106, in _populate_amphora_api_version</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            21:22:35.965 27 ERROR
            octavia.controller.worker.v1.controller_worker    
            raise_retry_exception=raise_retry_exception)['api_version']</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            octavia.controller.worker.v1.controller_worker   File
"/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/octavia/amphorae/drivers/haproxy/rest_api_driver.py",
            line 744, in get_api_version</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            octavia.controller.worker.v1.controller_worker    
            raise_retry_exception=raise_retry_exception)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Menlo;color:black">2021-08-08
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            octavia.controller.worker.v1.controller_worker   File
"/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/octavia/amphorae/drivers/haproxy/rest_api_driver.py",
            line 738, in request</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Menlo;color:black">2021-08-08
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            octavia.controller.worker.v1.controller_worker     raise
            driver_except.TimeOutException()</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            21:22:35.965 27 ERROR
            octavia.controller.worker.v1.controller_worker
            octavia.amphorae.driver_exceptions.exceptions.TimeOutException:
            contacting the amphora timed out</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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