<br><br>On Wednesday, June 9, 2021, Dan Sneddon <<a href="mailto:dsneddon@redhat.com">dsneddon@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">Thanks for making the announcement. Can you clarify how the feature-freeze dates will be communicated to the greater community of contributors?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>if you mean tripleo contributors then in the usual manner i.e. this mailing list, the IRC meeting etc</div><div><br></div><div>if you mean the other openstack projects then that hasnt really ever applied since tripleo always has trailed the openstack release.</div><div><br></div><div>the main thing this buys us is the ability to skip creating a particular branch (assuming we go ahead... for example not creating stable/Y when that time comes) or creating it *much* later than the trailing release model allows us which is 6 months if i recall correctly. In which case again feature freeze wouldnt apply since that stable branch would already have been created by the openstack projects</div><div><br></div><div>regards , marios</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">- Dan Sneddon</div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jun 8, 2021, at 8:21 AM, Wesley Hayutin <<a href="mailto:whayutin@redhat.com" target="_blank">whayutin@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Greetings TripleO community!</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">At the most recent TripleO community meetings we have discussed formally changing the OpenStack release model for TripleO [1].  The previous released projects can be found here [2].  </span><span style="background-color:transparent;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial;font-size:11pt;white-space:pre-wrap">TripleO has previously released with release-type[‘trailing’, ‘cycle-with-intermediary’].</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">To quote the release model doc:</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">‘</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Trailing deliverables trail the release, so they cannot, by definition, be independent. They need to pick between </span><a href="https://releases.openstack.org/reference/release_models.html#cycle-with-rc" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(48,115,156);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">cycle-with-rc</span></a><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> or </span><a href="https://releases.openstack.org/reference/release_models.html#cycle-with-intermediary" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(48,115,156);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">cycle-with-intermediary</span></a><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> models.’</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">We are proposing to update the release-model to ‘independent’.  This would give the TripleO community more flexibility in when we choose to cut a release.  In turn this would mean less backporting, less upstream and 3rd party resources used by potentially some future releases.</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">To quote the release model doc:</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">‘Some projects opt to completely bypass the 6-month cycle and release independently. For example, that is the case of projects that support the development infrastructure. The “independent” model describes such projects.’</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The discussion here is to merely inform the greater community with regards to the proposal and conversations regarding the release model.  This thread is NOT meant to discuss previous releases or their supported status, merely changing the release model here [3]</span></p><br><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">[0] </span><a href="https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tripleo-meeting-items" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">https://etherpad.opendev.org/<wbr>p/tripleo-meeting-items</span></a></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">[1]  </span><a href="https://releases.openstack.org/reference/release_models.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">https://releases.openstack.<wbr>org/reference/release_models.<wbr>html</span></a></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">[2] </span><a href="https://releases.openstack.org/teams/tripleo.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">https://releases.openstack.<wbr>org/teams/tripleo.html</span></a></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">[3]</span><a href="https://opendev.org/openstack/releases/src/branch/master/deliverables/xena" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> https://opendev.org/openstack/<wbr>releases/src/branch/master/<wbr>deliverables/xena</span></a></p></span><br></div>
</div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><br><br>-- <br>_sent from my mobile - sorry for spacing spelling etc_<br>