<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 20. May 2021, at 15:46, Dmitry Tantsur <<a href="mailto:dtantsur@redhat.com" class="">dtantsur@redhat.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div class="gmail_quote" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 2:24 PM Mohammed Naser <<a href="mailto:mnaser@vexxhost.com" class="">mnaser@vexxhost.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 9:23 AM Erno Kuvaja <<a href="mailto:ekuvaja@redhat.com" target="_blank" class="">ekuvaja@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">><br class="">> Hi all,<br class="">><br class="">> For those of you who have not woken up to this sad day yet. Andrew Lee has taken his stance as owner of freenode ltd. and by the (one sided) story of the former volunteer staff members basically forced the whole community out.<br class="">><br class="">> As there is history of LTM shutting down networks before (snoonet), it is appropriate to expect that the intentions here are not aligned with the communities and specially the users who's data he has access to via this administrative takeover.<br class="">><br class="">> I think it's our time to take swift action and show our support to all the hard working volunteers who were behind freenode and move all our activities to irc.libera.chat.<br class="">><br class="">> Please see<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://twitter.com/freenodestaff" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://twitter.com/freenodestaff</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and Christian's letter which links to the others as well<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://fuchsnet.ch/freenode-resign-letter.txt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://fuchsnet.ch/freenode-resign-letter.txt</a><br class="">><br class="">> Best,<br class="">> Erno 'jokke' Kuvaja<br class=""><br class="">There is two sides to each story, this is the other one:<br class=""><br class=""><a href="https://freenode.net/news/freenode-is-foss" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://freenode.net/news/freenode-is-foss</a><br class=""><br class="">I recommend that so long that we don't have any problems, we keep things as is.<br class=""></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Well, we already have a problem: ruined trust from the participants. We've had people explicitly voicing their undesire to use freenode any longer. Given that IRC is already not very inclusive (see my other emails), we may end up with several disjointed chats for different community members - exactly the thing we want to avoid.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-1 to pretending that nothing has happened.<br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>+1 on -1</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_quote" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Dmitry<br class=""></div><div class=""> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><br class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Mohammed Naser<br class="">VEXXHOST, Inc.<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><br clear="all" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div dir="ltr" class="">Red Hat GmbH,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://de.redhat.com/" target="_blank" class="">https://de.redhat.com/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>, Registered seat: Grasbrunn,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Commercial register: Amtsgericht Muenchen, HRB 153243,<br class="">Managing Directors: Charles Cachera, Brian Klemm, Laurie Krebs, Michael O'Neill<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>