<div dir="ltr"><div>+1 on sticking with the IRC. It's simple, established, and a lot of us have tuned our workflow around it.</div><div>As a person who was using discord and slack for some time in a professional capacity, I can only say that it's hadly an improvement over IRC.</div><div><br></div><div>And in more general terms. When it comes to change, I don't think "it's newer" is much of an argument by itself.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 4:17 PM Kashyap Chamarthy <<a href="mailto:kchamart@redhat.com">kchamart@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 02:42:02PM +0100, Erno Kuvaja wrote:<br>
> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 2:34 PM Dmitry Tantsur <<a href="mailto:dtantsur@redhat.com" target="_blank">dtantsur@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> > Probably not the best timing, but should we consider (again) running a<br>
> > more advanced free software chat system? E.g. Outreachy uses Zulip, Mozilla<br>
> > - Matrix, there are probably more.<br>
> ><br>
> > Yeah I'd say not the greatest timing to start such a conversation under<br>
> pressure.<br>
> <br>
> FWIF I'd rather not. The signal to noise ratio tends to be very poor on all<br>
> of them with their stickers, gifs and all the active media crap embedded in<br>
> them.<br>
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I agree that the dancing poop GIFs are very distracting. So "yes" to<br>
sticking with IRC given its strengths and simplicity. Though, I'm<br>
biased here as a long-time happy IRC user.<br>
<br>
That said, two things:<br>
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- Those who _do_ want to use Matrix seem to have an option in terms of<br>
Matrix <-> IRC bridge. I see several people with [m] in their IRC<br>
nicks on #virt channel on OFTC network. So people seem to<br>
successfully use IRC with Matrix.<br>
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- IRC seems to give an outdated feel for many newcomers. So if there<br>
are other "better" FOSS alternatives that accomodates our<br>
community's needs — and without alienating existing IRC users' needs<br>
— we should be willing to explore. But I agree that this is not the<br>
right timing to start this discussion, and I'm not even sure if<br>
this is a "real problem".<br>
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/kashyap<br>
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