<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear rpm team fellows,</div><div><br></div>I take off my release PTL cap to discuss with you as a teammate about some inconsistencies in our deliverables.<div><br></div><div>Indeed, last week we noticed some <span class="gmail-">inconsistencies between the rpm-packaging team's deliverables described in the governance’s reference and deliverables defined in the openstack/releases repo.</span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><br></span></div><div><span class="gmail-">S<span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span>ince rpm-packaging became a SIG our deliverables [1][2][3] aren't managed by the release team anymore, so we should act accordingly to reflect that.</span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><br></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span>Two choices are available to us:</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span>1) <span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z">mark these project as "release-model: abandoned" in the governance repo [4];<br></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z">2) remove the corresponding files from openstack/releases [1][2][3].<br></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z"><br></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z">Each choice has pros and cons:</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z">- by choosing 1) it will reflect that our projects are abandoned, <span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span>which is wrong, our projects are still active but not released by the coordinated releases anymore;<br></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span>- by choosing 2) it will reflect that we have always been a SIG, which is wrong<span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span> too.<br></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><br></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span>I personally prefer 2) to allow us to avoid misleading someone by having an abandoned status, indeed, reflecting a SIG is less misleading than reflecting an abandoned project.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z"><br></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z">Here is the list of our deliverables that should be addressed:</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z">- renderspec [1]<br></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z">- pymod2pkg [2]</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z">- rpm-packaging [3]</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z"><br></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z">Any opinion?<br></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z"><br>For further details please take a look to our previous meeting discussion [5].</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z"><br></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z">Thanks for reading,<br></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z"><br></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z">[1] <a href="https://opendev.org/openstack/releases/src/branch/master/deliverables/_independent/renderspec.yaml">https://opendev.org/openstack/releases/src/branch/master/deliverables/_independent/renderspec.yaml</a></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z">[2] <a href="https://opendev.org/openstack/releases/src/branch/master/deliverables/_independent/pymod2pkg.yaml">https://opendev.org/openstack/releases/src/branch/master/deliverables/_independent/pymod2pkg.yaml</a></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z">[3] <a href="https://opendev.org/openstack/releases/src/branch/master/deliverables/wallaby/rpm-packaging.yaml">https://opendev.org/openstack/releases/src/branch/master/deliverables/wallaby/rpm-packaging.yaml</a></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z">[4] <a href="https://opendev.org/openstack/governance/src/branch/master/reference/sigs-repos.yaml#L24-L28">https://opendev.org/openstack/governance/src/branch/master/reference/sigs-repos.yaml#L24-L28</a></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z">[5] <a href="http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-release/%23openstack-release.2021-01-14.log.html#t2021-01-14T17:12:27">http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-release/%23openstack-release.2021-01-14.log.html#t2021-01-14T17:12:27</a></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><span class="gmail-author-a-0z66zz67zz74zb8tz85ztj4wv1z87zz73z"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hervé Beraud</div><div>Senior Software Engineer at Red Hat</div><div>irc: hberaud</div><div><a href="https://github.com/4383/" target="_blank">https://github.com/4383/</a></div><div><a href="https://twitter.com/4383hberaud" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/4383hberaud</a><br></div><div>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br><br>wsFcBAABCAAQBQJb4AwCCRAHwXRBNkGNegAALSkQAHrotwCiL3VMwDR0vcja10Q+<br>Kf31yCutl5bAlS7tOKpPQ9XN4oC0ZSThyNNFVrg8ail0SczHXsC4rOrsPblgGRN+<br>RQLoCm2eO1AkB0ubCYLaq0XqSaO+Uk81QxAPkyPCEGT6SRxXr2lhADK0T86kBnMP<br>F8RvGolu3EFjlqCVgeOZaR51PqwUlEhZXZuuNKrWZXg/oRiY4811GmnvzmUhgK5G<br>5+f8mUg74hfjDbR2VhjTeaLKp0PhskjOIKY3vqHXofLuaqFDD+WrAy/NgDGvN22g<br>glGfj472T3xyHnUzM8ILgAGSghfzZF5Skj2qEeci9cB6K3Hm3osj+PbvfsXE/7Kw<br>m/xtm+FjnaywZEv54uCmVIzQsRIm1qJscu20Qw6Q0UiPpDFqD7O6tWSRKdX11UTZ<br>hwVQTMh9AKQDBEh2W9nnFi9kzSSNu4OQ1dRMcYHWfd9BEkccezxHwUM4Xyov5Fe0<br>qnbfzTB1tYkjU78loMWFaLa00ftSxP/DtQ//iYVyfVNfcCwfDszXLOqlkvGmY1/Y<br>F1ON0ONekDZkGJsDoS6QdiUSn8RZ2mHArGEWMV00EV5DCIbCXRvywXV43ckx8Z+3<br>B8qUJhBqJ8RS2F+vTs3DTaXqcktgJ4UkhYC2c1gImcPRyGrK9VY0sCT+1iA+wp/O<br>v6rDpkeNksZ9fFSyoY2o<br>=ECSj<br>-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>