<div dir="ltr"><div>Hello everyone,</div><div><br></div><div>Here is an email to officialize our position on Olso concerning our lower-constraints testing policy.</div><div>Indeed we reached a consensus during our last meeting and all the Oslo cores <span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span>who spoke agreed with this decision to drop the L.C tests [1]</span></span></span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span>.</span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><br></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span>So we already started to drop lower-constraints jobs on Oslo to unlock our gates.</span></span></span></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks to everyone who joined the discussion and thanks for reading!</div><div><br></div><div>[1] <span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><a href="http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2021/oslo.2021-01-04-16.00.log.txt">http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2021/oslo.2021-01-04-16.00.log.txt</a></span></span></span> #topic Dropping lower-constraints testing<span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span></span></span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span></span></span></span><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span></span></span></span></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le ven. 18 déc. 2020 à 20:34, Moises Guimaraes de Medeiros <<a href="mailto:moguimar@redhat.com">moguimar@redhat.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">+1<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:46 PM Ghanshyam Mann <<a href="mailto:gmann@ghanshyammann.com" target="_blank">gmann@ghanshyammann.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> ---- On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 08:54:26 -0600 hberaud <<a href="mailto:hberaud@redhat.com" target="_blank">hberaud@redhat.com</a>> wrote ----<br>
> Hello,<br>
> As you already surely know, we (the openstack project) currently face some issues with our lower-constraints jobs due to pip's latest resolver feature.<br>
> By discussing this topic with Thierry Carrez (ttx) from an oslo point of view, we reached the same conclusion that it is more appropriate to drop this kind of tests because the complexity and recurring pain neededto maintain them now exceeds the benefits provided by this mechanismes.<br>
> Also we should notice that the number of active maintainers is declining, so we think that this is the shortest path to solve this problem on oslo for now and for the future too.<br>
> <br>
> In a first time I tried to fix our gates by fixing our lower-constraints project by project but with around ~36 projects to maintain this is a painful task, especially due to nested oslo layers inside oslo himself... I saw the face of the hell of dependencies.<br>
> <br>
> So, in a second time I submitted a series of patches to drop these tests [1].<br>
> But before moving further with that we would appreciate discussing this with the TC. For now the patches are ready and we just have to push the good button accordingly to our choices (+W or abandon).<br>
> <br>
> Normally all the oslo projects that need to be fixed are covered by [1].<br>
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> Thoughts?<br>
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+1, I think it's not worth to keep maintaining them which is taking too much effort. <br>
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-gmann<br>
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> Thanks for reading.<br>
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> [1] <a href="https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22oslo_lc_drop%22+(status:open%20OR%20status:merged)" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22oslo_lc_drop%22+(status:open%20OR%20status:merged)</a> <br>
> -- <br>
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