<div dir="ltr"><div>Hello,</div><div><br></div><div>As you already surely know, we (the openstack project) currently face some issues with our lower-constraints jobs due to pip's latest  resolver feature.</div><div><br></div><div>By discussing this topic with Thierry Carrez (ttx) from an oslo point of view, we reached the same conclusion that it is more appropriate to drop this kind of tests because <span id="gmail-output">the complexity and recurring pain needed
to maintain them now exceeds the benefits provided by this mechanismes.</span></div><div><span id="gmail-output"><br></span></div><div><span id="gmail-output"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span>Also we should notice that the number of active maintainers is declining, so we think that this is the shortest path to solve this problem on oslo for now and for the future too.<br></span></span></span></span></div><div><span id="gmail-output"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><br></span></span></span></span></div><div><span id="gmail-output"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span>In a first time I tried to fix our gates by fixing our lower-constraints project by project but with around ~36 projects to maintain this is a painful task, especially due to nested oslo layers inside oslo himself... I saw the face of the hell of dependencies.<br></span></span></span></span></div><div><span id="gmail-output"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><br></span></span></span></span></div><div><span id="gmail-output"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span>So, in a second time I submitted a series of patches to drop these tests [1].</span></span></span></span></div><div><span id="gmail-output"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><br></span></span></span></span></div><div><span id="gmail-output"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span>But before moving further with that we would appreciate discussing this with the TC. For now the patches are ready and we just have to push the good button accordingly to our choices (+W or abandon).<br></span></span></span></span></div><div><span id="gmail-output"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><br></span></span></span></span></div><div><span id="gmail-output"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span>Normally all the oslo projects that need to be fixed are covered by [1].<br></span></span></span></span></div><div><span id="gmail-output"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><br></span></span></span></span></div><div><span id="gmail-output"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span>Thoughts?<br></span></span></span></span></div><div><span id="gmail-output"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span><br></span></span></span></span></div><div><span id="gmail-output"><span class="gmail-VIiyi" lang="en"><span class="gmail-JLqJ4b gmail-ChMk0b"><span>Thanks for reading.<br></span></span></span></span></div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22oslo_lc_drop%22+(status:open%20OR%20status:merged)">https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22oslo_lc_drop%22+(status:open%20OR%20status:merged)</a></div><div> </div><div><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hervé Beraud</div><div>Senior Software Engineer at Red Hat</div><div>irc: hberaud</div><div><a href="https://github.com/4383/" target="_blank">https://github.com/4383/</a></div><div><a href="https://twitter.com/4383hberaud" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/4383hberaud</a><br></div><div>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br><br>wsFcBAABCAAQBQJb4AwCCRAHwXRBNkGNegAALSkQAHrotwCiL3VMwDR0vcja10Q+<br>Kf31yCutl5bAlS7tOKpPQ9XN4oC0ZSThyNNFVrg8ail0SczHXsC4rOrsPblgGRN+<br>RQLoCm2eO1AkB0ubCYLaq0XqSaO+Uk81QxAPkyPCEGT6SRxXr2lhADK0T86kBnMP<br>F8RvGolu3EFjlqCVgeOZaR51PqwUlEhZXZuuNKrWZXg/oRiY4811GmnvzmUhgK5G<br>5+f8mUg74hfjDbR2VhjTeaLKp0PhskjOIKY3vqHXofLuaqFDD+WrAy/NgDGvN22g<br>glGfj472T3xyHnUzM8ILgAGSghfzZF5Skj2qEeci9cB6K3Hm3osj+PbvfsXE/7Kw<br>m/xtm+FjnaywZEv54uCmVIzQsRIm1qJscu20Qw6Q0UiPpDFqD7O6tWSRKdX11UTZ<br>hwVQTMh9AKQDBEh2W9nnFi9kzSSNu4OQ1dRMcYHWfd9BEkccezxHwUM4Xyov5Fe0<br>qnbfzTB1tYkjU78loMWFaLa00ftSxP/DtQ//iYVyfVNfcCwfDszXLOqlkvGmY1/Y<br>F1ON0ONekDZkGJsDoS6QdiUSn8RZ2mHArGEWMV00EV5DCIbCXRvywXV43ckx8Z+3<br>B8qUJhBqJ8RS2F+vTs3DTaXqcktgJ4UkhYC2c1gImcPRyGrK9VY0sCT+1iA+wp/O<br>v6rDpkeNksZ9fFSyoY2o<br>=ECSj<br>-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>