<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 11:22 AM Artom Lifshitz <<a href="mailto:alifshit@redhat.com">alifshit@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:12 PM Ghanshyam Mann <<a href="mailto:gmann@ghanshyammann.com" target="_blank">gmann@ghanshyammann.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> This topic is a very important and critical area to solve in the OpenStack community.<br>
> I personally feel and keep raising this issue wherever I get the opportunity.<br>
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> To develop or maintain any software, the very first thing we need is to have enough developer resources.<br>
> Without enough developers (either open or closed source), none of the software can survive.<br>
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> OpenStack current situation on contributors is not the same as it was few years back. Almost every<br>
> project is facing the less contributor issue as compare to requirements and incoming requests. Few<br>
> projects already dead or going to be if we do not solve the less contributors issue now.<br>
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> I know, TC is not directly responsible to solve this issue but we should do something or at least find<br>
> the way who can solve this.<br>
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I'm not running for TC, but I figured I could chime in with some<br>
thoughts, and maybe get TC candidates to react.<br>
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> What do you think about what role TC can play to solve this? What platform or entity can be used by TC to<br>
> raise this issue? or any new crazy Idea?<br>
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To my knowledge, the vast majority of contributors to OpenStack are<br>
corporate contributors - meaning, they contribute to the community<br>
because it's their job. As companies have dropped out, the contributor<br>
count has diminished. Therefore, the obvious solution to the<br>
contributor dearth would be to recruit new companies that use or sell<br>
OpenStack. However, as far as I know, Red Hat is the only company<br>
remaining that still makes money from selling OpenStack as a product.<br>
So if we're looking for new contributor companies, we would have to<br>
look to those that use OpenStack, and try to make the case that it<br>
makes sense for them to get involved in the community. I'm not sure<br>
what this kind of advocacy would look like, or towards which<br>
companies, or what kind of companies, it would be directed. Perhaps<br>
the TC candidates could have suggestions here. And if I've made any<br>
wrong assumptions, by all means correct me.<br>
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> -gmann<br>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div>I don't think you are too far off. I used to work in a place where my job was to help sell Openstack (among other products) and</div><div>enable the use of it with customers.</div><div><br></div><div>Customers drive everything vendors do. Things that sell are easy to use. Customers don't buy the best products, they buy what they</div><div>can understand fastest. If customers are asking for a product, it's because they understand its value. Vendors in turn contribute</div><div>to projects because they make money from their investment.</div><div><br></div><div>Now think about the perception and reality of Openstack as a whole. We have spent the last decade or so writing bleeding edge features.</div><div>We have spent very little time on documenting what we do have in layman's terms. The intended audience of our docs would seem</div><div>to me to be other developers. I hope people don't take that as a jab, it's just the truth. If someone cannot understand how to use</div><div>this amazing technology, it won't sell. If it doesn't sell, vendors leave, if vendors leave the number of contributors goes down.</div><div><br></div><div>If we don't start working at making Openstack easier to consume, then no amount of technical change will make an impactful difference.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>~/DonnyD</div><div>C: 805 814 6800</div><div>"No mission too difficult. No sacrifice too great. Duty First"</div></div></div></div></div>