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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>There was a bug in Queens that meant there was an issue with the
heartbeat timeouts. Setting it to 0 gets around that bug. I
believe that was fixed in Rocky and above, so your Stein
installation should be fine. <br>
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<p>Setting the value to 0 For us meant we stopped getting errors in
the logs for:</p>
<p>"Too many heartbeats missed, trying to force connect to RabbitMQ"</p>
<p>Regards,<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/03/2020 18:53, Satish Patel
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<div dir="ltr">I have question related following setting, why are
you disabling heartbeat timeout?
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<div><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">heartbeat_timeout_threshold
= 0 </span><br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 1:32
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<div dir="ltr">Great, thanks! Did you guys tune your nova
component for rabbitMQ? <br>
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<p>We left ours on the default value of 1 and that still
seems to be fine.</p>
<p>Grant<br>
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<div>On 19/03/2020 17:13, Satish Patel wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">how about rpc_worker ?
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<div>currently i have rpc_worker=1 </div>
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<p>Correct, you need to add:</p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">> >
heartbeat_timeout_threshold = 0</span><br
style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">
<span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">> >
rpc_conn_pool_size = 300</span><br
style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">
<span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">> >
rpc_thread_pool_size = 2048</span><br
style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">
<span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">> >
rpc_response_timeout = 3600</span><br
style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">
<span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">> >
rpc_poll_timeout = 60</span></p>
<p>To your Neutron nodes</p>
<p>And you can add:</p>
<p><br>
<span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)"><span
style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">>>
executor_thread_pool_size = 64</span><br
style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">
<span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">>>
rpc_response_timeout = 3600</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)"><span
style="color:rgb(80,0,80)"><font
color="#000000">To your compute nodes
(neutron.conf) However I found just
adding the changes to the neturon
servers really helped.</font></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)"><span
style="color:rgb(80,0,80)"><font
color="#000000">I would recommend just
starting with your neutron nodes first
to see if that helps. If you find your
compute nodes are still having issues
then change the settings on those after.</font></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)"><span
style="color:rgb(80,0,80)"><font
color="#000000">Regards,</font><br>
</span></span></p>
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<div>On 19/03/2020 16:53, Satish Patel wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I am running openstack-ansible
(Queens / Stein both) so this is what i am
going to do, am i doing correctly?
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<div>neutron-server (container) I have 3
neutron node. </div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">>
> heartbeat_timeout_threshold = 0</span><br
style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">
<span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">> >
rpc_conn_pool_size = 300</span><br
style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">
<span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">> >
rpc_thread_pool_size = 2048</span><br
style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">
<span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">> >
rpc_response_timeout = 3600</span><br
style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">
<span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">> >
rpc_poll_timeout = 60</span><br>
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<div>330 compute nodes (agent neutron.conf)
going to add following:</div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">>>
executor_thread_pool_size = 64</span><br
style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">
<span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)">>>
rpc_response_timeout = 3600</span><br>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)"><br>
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<div>How about nova? should i be doing that
on nova as well to reduce load on
rabbitMQ?</div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80)"><br>
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<p>Hi Satish,</p>
<p>You will need to add those to the
"neutron.conf" file on your network
nodes. If you are running OS-A I would
do it on your "neutron-server" nodes
and add the following to your agents
containers:</p>
<p>executor_thread_pool_size = 64<br>
rpc_response_timeout = 3600<br>
</p>
<p>Regards,<br>
</p>
<div>On 19/03/2020 16:27, Satish Patel
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<pre>Erik,
If i want to adopt following setting then where i should add them in
Queens openstack, neutron-server or all my compute nodes? which
setting will go where?
heartbeat_timeout_threshold = 0
rpc_conn_pool_size = 300
rpc_thread_pool_size = 2048
rpc_response_timeout = 3600
rpc_poll_timeout = 60
## Rpc all
executor_thread_pool_size = 64
rpc_response_timeout = 3600
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 9:05 PM Erik Olof Gunnar Andersson
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<pre>We are hitting something awfully similar.
We have basically been hitting a few pretty serious bugs with RabbitMQ.
The main one is when a RabbitMQ server crashes, or gets split brain it does not always recover, or even when just one node is restarted. We sometimes end up with orphaned consumers that keep consuming messages, but goes to /dev/null pretty much. Another issue is that sometimes bindings stop working. They are visually there, but simply does not route traffic to the intended queues.
e.g. <a href="https://github.com/rabbitmq/rabbitmq-server/issues/641" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/rabbitmq/rabbitmq-server/issues/641</a>
I wrote two quick scripts to audit these issues.
<a href="http://paste.openstack.org/show/790569/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://paste.openstack.org/show/790569/</a> - Check if you have orphaned consumers (may need pagination if you have a large deployment).
<a href="http://paste.openstack.org/show/790570/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://paste.openstack.org/show/790570/</a> - Check if the bindings are bad for a specific queue.
The main issue seems to be the number of queues + connections causing the recovery after restarting a node to cause bindings and/or queues to get into an "orphaned" state.
Best Regards, Erik Olof Gunnar Andersson
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Subject: Re: Neutron RabbitMQ issues
I am also dealing with some short of rabbitmq performance issue but its not as worst you your issue.
This is my favorite video, not sure you have seen this before or not but anyway posting here - <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpmgxrPOrZw__;!!Ci6f514n9QsL8ck!1rOR_L7ya6zmMgZ0owpfO7NvhsPOzbgyUplonob2awcg8hd80yCAT_ynvarUEZv4Mw$" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpmgxrPOrZw__;!!Ci6f514n9QsL8ck!1rOR_L7ya6zmMgZ0owpfO7NvhsPOzbgyUplonob2awcg8hd80yCAT_ynvarUEZv4Mw$</a>
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<pre>Hi all,
We are currently experiencing some fairly major issues with our
OpenStack cluster. It all appears to be with Neutron and RabbitMQ. We
are seeing a lot of time out messages in responses to replies and
because of this instance creation or anything to do with instances and
networking is broken.
We are running OpenStack Queens.
We have already tuned Rabbit for Neutron by doing the following on neutron:
heartbeat_timeout_threshold = 0
rpc_conn_pool_size = 300
rpc_thread_pool_size = 2048
rpc_response_timeout = 3600
rpc_poll_timeout = 60
## Rpc all
executor_thread_pool_size = 64
rpc_response_timeout = 3600
What we are seeing in the error logs for neutron for all services
(l3-agent, dhcp, linux-bridge etc ) are these timeouts:
<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://pastebin.com/Fjh23A5a__;!!Ci6f514n" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://pastebin.com/Fjh23A5a__;!!Ci6f514n</a>
9QsL8ck!1rOR_L7ya6zmMgZ0owpfO7NvhsPOzbgyUplonob2awcg8hd80yCAT_ynvapLQK
9aOA$
We have manually tried to get everything in sync by forcing fail-over
of the networking which seems to get routers in sync.
We are also seeing that there are a lot of "unacknowledged" messages
in RabbitMQ for 'q-plugin' in the neutron queues.
Some times restarting of the services on neutron gets these back
acknowledged again, however the timeouts come back.
The RabbitMQ servers themselves are not loaded at all. All memory,
file descriptors and errlang processes have plenty of resources available.
We are also seeing a lot of rpc issues:
Timeout in RPC method release_dhcp_port. Waiting for 1523 seconds
before next attempt. If the server is not down, consider increasing
the rpc_response_timeout option as Neutron server(s) may be overloaded
and unable to respond quickly enough.: MessagingTimeout: Timed out
waiting for a reply to message ID 965fa44ab4f6462fa378a1cf7259aad4
2020-03-10 19:02:33.548 16242 ERROR neutron.common.rpc
[req-a858afbb-5083-4e21-a309-6ee53582c4d9 - - - - -] Timeout in RPC
method release_dhcp_port. Waiting for 3347 seconds before next attempt.
If the server is not down, consider increasing the
rpc_response_timeout option as Neutron server(s) may be overloaded and
unable to respond quickly enough.: MessagingTimeout: Timed out waiting
for a reply to message ID 7937465f15634fbfa443fe1758a12a9c
Does anyone know if there is anymore tuning to be done at all?
Upgrading for us at the moment to a newer version isn't really an
option unfortunately.
Because of our setup, we also have roughly 800 routers enabled and I
know that will be putting a load on the system. However these problems
have only started to happen roughly 1 week ago and have steadily got worse.
If anyone has any use cases for this or any more recommendations that
would be great.
Many thanks,
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