<div dir="auto">How we view OpenStack within our community here is usually vastly different than the majority of enterprises and how they view it. Side note: My biggest gripe with OpenStack leadership is actually that everything is viewed from the lens of a developer which, I feel, is contributing to the plateau/decline in its adoption. That is but that's a topic for another day.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Most organizations ( as I've seen anyway) view OpenStack as a product that is compared to other cloud products like vCloud Director/similar. And after 8 years architecting clouds with it, I see it the same way. So I'm not exactly inclined to split hairs with how it is characterized.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Bottom line though, ensuring that non-developers are able to easily able to get their questions answered will, in my personal opinion, either promote OpenStack or promote the conception that it requires a team of developers to understand and run which kills any serious consideration in the boardroom.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Sorry to the OP, didn't mean to hijack your thread here. :) just raises an important topic th get I see come up over and over.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">//adam</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 18, 2020, 2:43 AM Jeremy Stanley <<a href="mailto:fungi@yuggoth.org">fungi@yuggoth.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 2020-01-17 21:24:36 +0530 (+0530), Adam Peacock wrote:<br>
[...]<br>
> Also, we need to be clear not everyone leans towards being a<br>
> developer or even *wants* to go in that direction when using<br>
> OpenStack. In fact, most don't and if there is that expectation by<br>
> those entrenched with the OpenStack product, the OpenStack option<br>
> gets dropped in favor of something else. It's developer-friendly<br>
> but we need to be mega-mega-careful, as a community, to ensure<br>
> development isn't the baseline or assumption for adequate support<br>
> or to get questions answered. Especially since we've converged our<br>
> communication channels.<br>
[...]<br>
<br>
Most users probably won't become developers on OpenStack, but some<br>
will, and I believe its long-term survival depends on that so we<br>
should do everything we can to encourage it. Users may also<br>
contribute in a variety of other ways like bug reporting and triage,<br>
outreach, revising or translating documentation, and so on.<br>
<br>
OpenStack isn't a "product," it's a community software collaboration<br>
on which many companies have built products (either by running it as<br>
a service or selling support for it). Treating the community the way<br>
you might treat a paid vendor is where all of this goes to a bad<br>
place very quickly.<br>
-- <br>
Jeremy Stanley<br>
</blockquote></div>