<div dir="ltr"><div>Arx,</div><div><br></div><div>First of all I want to repeat that it has nothing to do with the quality of your work. Again, I'm aware of what you've been working on and I appreciate what you have been doing with the CI team.</div><br>The major issue that I'm dealing with as a major maintainer of TripleO is that over the past years we have promoted a lot of people to be core reviewers; but if you closely look at numbers: most of the reviews are done by 3 people; this is problematic when one of us is absent; and even more problematic if one of us one day leave.<br><br>I have the feeling that promoting more core developers hasn't solved that problem; and there are few folks currently core that should not be core anymore IMO; because they don't review much and aren't much involved as "core maintainers".<br>Being a core reviewer means you're an official maintainer. You maintain the code, wherever it is; if it's something that your direct peer wrote or something that $random_contributor wrote. Very often we have promoted cores who only review things from their direct peers and this has been problematic because 1) reviews are done by silos and 2) some parts of the project aren't reviewed at all. It has nothing to do with you but just to give you a bit of context on why I'm being more conservative now.<br><br>You said that you have spent major time on things not under TripleO umbrella: please know that I'm aware of this, I'm watching it and I appreciate it. However we are talking about TripleO CI core which is under TripleO umbrella. Not Podman, not RDO CI etc. Which is why I went looking to Stackalytics to see numbers (even if I take them with a grain of salt).<br><br>The core promotion is a decision that is taken as a group. My -1 doesn't mean you won't be core, it just means I had to provide some feedback on why I'm reluctant of you being core as of now. It doesn't mean I don't find your work valuable or that you're not helping on IRC; actually you're doing great. I just think that the bar is a bit higher compared to my taste and I don't think you're far from reaching it.<br><br><div>Now, this is only my opinion and what it's worth. My hope is that 1) you continue to improve your involvement in TripleO and 2) our core reviewers do more reviews because it can't only be 3 persons who do more than 70% of the reviews.</div><div><br></div><div>Have a great weekend,</div><div>Emilien<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 9:39 AM Arx Cruz <<a href="mailto:arxcruz@redhat.com">arxcruz@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:1rem;color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px">Hello Emilien,</div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:16px;color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:1rem;color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px">Thanks for your feedback, I really appreciate it.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:1rem;color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px">You are right, there are places that I really can improve, and I will work to improve it, and I really looking forward to have your help.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:1rem;color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:1rem;color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px">Regarding the amount of reviews and commits, it’s true that I haven’t be so active on tripleo upstream projects, but please, remember that stackalytics only reflect the projects under tripleo umbrella, and you know that in tripleo-ci we also work on rdo side, where I’ve been working more activelly, right now, working on integration with thirdy party projects like podman and ceph-ansible, which is not directly related to Tripleo indeed, but are key projects to Tripleo work properly.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:1rem;color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:1rem;color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px">Also, look only in the latest release patches doesn’t seems to be too fair, if you check the previous release I have more than double of reviews (although yes, the number of commits remains stable), and probably if you get the Ussuri release, I will not have too much reviews or commits, since I’ve been on vacation mostly of the december.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:1rem;color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:1rem;color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px">Also, and please, correct me if I am wrong, I don’t remember anytime that people ping me on IRC and I did not reply, or was prompt to help, if that happens, please accept my sincere apologies, as you know, when things are on fire (long time without promotions for example, like the last sprint I was ruck and rover) our focus is to make things get back to normal.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:1rem;color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:1rem;color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px">One more time, I am taking your feedback, and I’ll do my best to improve in the areas you point, and hopefully change your mind regarding my core promotion.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:16px;color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:1rem;color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px">Kind regards,</div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:1rem;color:rgb(49,49,49);word-spacing:1px">Arx Cruz</div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 at 16:45 Emilien Macchi <<a href="mailto:emilien@redhat.com" target="_blank">emilien@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>+1 for Chandan; no doubt; he's always available on IRC to help when things go wrong in gate or promotion, and very often he's proposing the fix.<br></div><div>Providing thoroughful reviews, and multi-project contributors, I've seen Chandan involved not only in TripleO CI but also in other projects like RDO and TripleO itself. I've seen him contributing to the tripleo-common and tripleoclient projects; which make him someone capable to understand not only how CI works but also how the project in general works. Having him core is to me natural. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Number of commits/reviews shows his interests in the CI repos:<br></div><div><a href="https://www.stackalytics.com/?user_id=chandankumar-093047&release=train&metric=marks" target="_blank">https://www.stackalytics.com/?user_id=chandankumar-093047&release=train&metric=marks</a></div><div><a href="https://www.stackalytics.com/?user_id=chandankumar-093047&release=train&metric=commits" target="_blank">https://www.stackalytics.com/?user_id=chandankumar-093047&release=train&metric=commits</a></div><div><br></div><div>----</div><div><br></div><div>I hate playing devil's advocate here but I'll give my honest (and hopefully constructive) opinion.<br></div><div>I would like to see more involvement from Arx in the TripleO community. He did a tremendous work on openstack-ansible-os_tempest; however this repo isn't governed by TripleO CI group. I would like to see more reviews; where he can bring his expertise; and not only in Gerrit but also on IRC when things aren't going well (gate issues, promotion blockers, etc).</div><div><br></div><div>Number of commits/reviews aren't low but IMHO can be better for a core reviewer.<br></div><div><a href="https://www.stackalytics.com/?user_id=arxcruz&release=train&metric=commits" target="_blank">https://www.stackalytics.com/?user_id=arxcruz&release=train&metric=commits</a></div><div><a href="https://www.stackalytics.com/?user_id=arxcruz&release=train&metric=marks" target="_blank">https://www.stackalytics.com/?user_id=arxcruz&release=train&metric=marks</a></div><div><br></div><div>I don't think it'll take time until Arx gets there but to me it's a -1 for now, for what it's worth.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Emilien<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 9:20 AM Ronelle Landy <<a href="mailto:rlandy@redhat.com" target="_blank">rlandy@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hello All,<div><br></div><div>I'd like to propose Arx Cruz (<a href="mailto:arxcruz@redhat.com" target="_blank">arxcruz@redhat.com</a>) and Chandan Kumar (<a href="mailto:chkumar@redhat.com" target="_blank">chkumar@redhat.com</a>) as core on tripleo-ci repos (tripleo-ci, tripleo-quickstart, tripleo-quickstart-extras).</div><div><br></div><div>In addition to the extensive work that Arx and Chandan have done on the Tempest-related repos ( and Tempest interface/settings within the Tripleo CI repos) , they have become active contributors to the core Tripleo CI repos, in general, in the past two years.</div><div><br></div><div>Please vote by replying to this thread with +1 or -1 for any objections. We will close the vote 7 days from now.<br><br>Thank you,</div><div>Ronelle</div></div>
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