<div dir="auto">Thanks Allison. And thanks Graham for raising this in the community.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 10:53 Allison Randal <<a href="mailto:allison@lohutok.net">allison@lohutok.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">A few more news posts about the topic:<br>
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<a href="https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/20/org_registry_sale_shambles/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/20/org_registry_sale_shambles/</a><br>
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<a href="https://gizmodo.com/private-equity-ghouls-buy-non-profit-that-handles-org-1839860118" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://gizmodo.com/private-equity-ghouls-buy-non-profit-that-handles-org-1839860118</a><br>
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<a href="http://blogs.harvard.edu/sj/2019/11/23/a-tale-of-icann-and-regulatory-capture-the-dot-org-heist/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://blogs.harvard.edu/sj/2019/11/23/a-tale-of-icann-and-regulatory-capture-the-dot-org-heist/</a><br>
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<a href="https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/11/private-equity-firm-buys-org-domain-months-after-icann-lifted-price-caps/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/11/private-equity-firm-buys-org-domain-months-after-icann-lifted-price-caps/</a><br>
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<a href="https://medium.com/@jacobmalthouse/in-which-i-explain-why-all-of-andrew-sullivans-reasons-for-selling-org-are-wrong-449997d42cac" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://medium.com/@jacobmalthouse/in-which-i-explain-why-all-of-andrew-sullivans-reasons-for-selling-org-are-wrong-449997d42cac</a><br>
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<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50515786" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50515786</a><br>
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HTH,<br>
Allison<br>
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On 11/26/19 12:33 PM, Graham Hayes wrote:<br>
> On 26/11/2019 16:44, Alan Clark wrote:<br>
>> Who owns <a href="http://savedotorg.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">savedotorg.org</a>?  I see EFF references on the page but when I look it up the domain it appears to all be "REDACTED".<br>
> <br>
> From <a href="https://savedotorg.org/index.php/about/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://savedotorg.org/index.php/about/</a> - it is ran by<br>
> NTEN (<a href="https://www.nten.org/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nten.org/</a>)<br>
> <br>
> It is supported by the EFF (among others)<br>
> <br>
>><br>
>>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>>> From: Graham Hayes [mailto:<a href="mailto:gr@ham.ie" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gr@ham.ie</a>]<br>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 9:35 AM<br>
>>> To: Jimmy McArthur <<a href="mailto:jimmy@openstack.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jimmy@openstack.org</a>><br>
>>> Cc: <a href="mailto:openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org</a>; foundation-<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:board@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">board@lists.openstack.org</a>; <a href="mailto:foundation@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">foundation@lists.openstack.org</a><br>
>>> Subject: Re: [OpenStack Foundation] [tc][board][all] - Adding OpenStack<br>
>>> community support to the savedotorg campaign<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 26/11/2019 16:16, Jimmy McArthur wrote:<br>
>>>> From my reading of the situation, it’s a done deal. It seems like ICAAN just<br>
>>> crammed it through. Is there new info out that could reverse it?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Thanks,<br>
>>>> Jimmy<br>
>>><br>
>>> My understanding is it looks bleak, but there is a chance to shame the owners<br>
>>> into halting the sale.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I think ICAAN can still block the same (until December 13th, 30 days after they<br>
>>> were notified), and through pure poor marketing, and raising our voices, this<br>
>>> could help convince the current owners of PIR (who is ISOC) to re-consider the<br>
>>> idea.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>>> On Nov 26, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Amy <<a href="mailto:amy@demarco.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">amy@demarco.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I agree with the OSF submitting on behalf of OpenStack and the other projects.<br>
>>> I also like the idea of individuals signing as contributors.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Amy Marrich (spotz)<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> On Nov 26, 2019, at 8:17 AM, Sean McGinnis <<a href="mailto:sean.mcginnis@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">sean.mcginnis@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 7:00 AM Graham Hayes <<a href="mailto:gr@ham.ie" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gr@ham.ie</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Hey All,<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I am not sure if this has been seen by everyone or not - but there<br>
>>>>>>> is a change in how the .org top level domain is being ran in the<br>
>>>>>>> works, in a way that may not be in the best interests of the non<br>
>>>>>>> profits that it was created to facilitate. [1]<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> A lot of  well known non profits have already joined, and as a<br>
>>>>>>> community that has an interest in the internet as a whole, and uses<br>
>>>>>>> a .org domain, I think we should add our voice in support.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> What do people think? Are we happy to have the TC use its voice on<br>
>>>>>>> behalf of the OpenStack project, or do we think the board should<br>
>>>>>>> use its voice on behalf of the entire foundation?<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> - Graham<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> 1 - <a href="https://savedotorg.org/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://savedotorg.org/</a><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> I agree this is a Foundation level thing (though individuals can add<br>
>>>>>> their names to the petition as well). I would support adding OSF to<br>
>>>>>> the list of organizations.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Sean<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
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>>><br>
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