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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I had a chat with my team and we think it would be best if we could keep Winstackers as a separate team.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This is mostly because of the associated projects, which are essential for the Windows – Openstack integration effort. Other teams may not be interested in adopting those projects, which would be required if we chose the SIG route.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Despite missing this election, I can assure you that we’re quite active in this endeavor. I’m willing to take the PTL role, offloading this task from Claudiu, whose time was quite limited recently.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Lucian Petrut</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Cloudbase Solutions</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">________________________________________</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">From: Mohammed Naser [mnaser@vexxhost.com]</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sent: Monday, September 09, 2019 3:05 PM</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">To: Thierry Carrez</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Cc: OpenStack Discuss</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Subject: Re: [winstackers][powervmstackers][tc] removing winstackers and PowerVMStackers from TC governance</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 5:10 AM Thierry Carrez <thierry@openstack.org> wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> Divya K Konoor wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> > Missing the deadline for a PTL nomination cannot be the reason for</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> > removing governance.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> I agree with that, but missing the deadline twice in a row is certainly</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> a sign of some disconnect with the rest of the OpenStack community.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> Project teams require a minimal amount of reactivity and presence, so it</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> is fair to question whether PowerVMStackers should continue as a project</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> team in the future.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> > PowerVMStackers continue to be an active project</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> > and would want to be continued to be governed under OpenStack. For PTL,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> > an eligible candidate can still be appointed .</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> There is another option, to stay under OpenStack governance but without</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> the constraints of a full project team: PowerVMStackers could be made an</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> OpenStack SIG.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> I already proposed that 6 months ago (last time there was no PTL nominee</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> for the team), on the grounds that interest in PowerVM was clearly a</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> special interest, and a SIG might be a better way to regroup people</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> interested in supporting PowerVM in OpenStack.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> The objection back then was that PowerVMStackers maintained a number of</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> PowerVM-related code, plugins and drivers that should ideally be adopted</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> by their consuming project teams (nova, neutron, ceilometer), and that</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> making it a SIG would endanger that adoption process.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> I still think it makes sense to consider PowerVMStackers as a Special</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> Interest Group. As long as the PowerVM-related code is not adopted by</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> the consuming projects, it is arguably a special interest, and not a</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> completely-integrated part of OpenStack components.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> The only difference in being a SIG (compared to being a project team)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> would be to reduce the amount of mandatory tasks (like designating a PTL</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> every 6 months). You would still be able to own repositories, get room</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> at OpenStack events, vote on TC election...</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> It would seem to be the best solution in your case.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I echo all of this and I think at this point, it's better for the</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">deliverables to be</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">within a SIG.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> --</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">> Thierry Carrez (ttx)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">--</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Mohammed Naser — vexxhost</p>
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