<div dir="ltr">To give a survey on the numbers of the valid commit contributors<br><br>We got<br><br>61 in Austin :)<div>...<br>1204 contributors in havana [1]<div>...</div><div>2629 in liberty</div><div>2991 in mitaka<br>3104 in newton (which is peek point) [2]<div>2581 in ocata<br><div>2452 in pike<br><div>1925 in queens</div><div>1665 in rocky</div><div>1612 in stein [3]</div><div><div><br><div dir="ltr"><div>I believe the numbers of contributors should reflect on the numbers of TCs.</div><div>If we try to compare the ratio (like stein cycle vs past six released cycles), I think to reduce to 9 (from 13) is acceptable numbers (also should be more than 7).</div><div><br></div><div>And for even number issue, I believe to have 1 cycle of even number TCs will not affect much. But if we can, odd number definitely helps to reduce conflict when we end up using a poll to resolved some issues (one TC can propose solutions but it takes all TCs can to resolve the conflict.).</div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="https://www.stackalytics.com/?release=havana&project_type=all&metric=commits">https://www.stackalytics.com/?release=havana&project_type=all&metric=commits</a></div><div>[2] <a href="https://www.stackalytics.com/?release=newton&project_type=all&metric=commits">https://www.stackalytics.com/?release=newton&project_type=all&metric=commits</a></div><div>[3] <a href="https://www.stackalytics.com/?release=stein&project_type=all&metric=commits">https://www.stackalytics.com/?release=stein&project_type=all&metric=commits</a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 6:17 PM Thierry Carrez <<a href="mailto:thierry@openstack.org">thierry@openstack.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi everyone,<br>
<br>
The size of the TC is a trade-off between getting enough community <br>
representation and keeping enough members engaged and active. The <br>
current size (13 members) was defined by in 2013, as we moved from 5 <br>
directly-elected seats + all PTLs (which would have been 14 people) to a <br>
model that could better cope with our explosive growth. Since then, 13 <br>
has worked well, to ensure that new blood could come in at every cycle.<br>
<br>
I would argue that today, there are far less need to get wide <br>
representation in the TC (we are pretty aligned), and less difficulty to <br>
enter the TC (there is more turnover). In 2019 OpenStack, 13 members is <br>
a rather large group. It is becoming difficult to find 13 people able to <br>
commit to a significant amount of time over the coming year. And it is <br>
difficult to keep all those 13 members active and engaged.<br>
<br>
IMHO it is time to reduce the TC to 11 members, which sounds like a more <br>
reasonable and manageable size. We should encourage people to stop for a <br>
while and come back, rather than burn too many people at the same time. <br>
We should encourage more people to watch from the sidelines, rather than <br>
have a group so large that everyone that can be in it is in it.<br>
<br>
This would not be a big-bang change, just something we would gradually <br>
put in place over the next year. My strawman plan would be as follows:<br>
<br>
- Sept. 2019 election: no change, elect 6 seats as planned<br>
- Feb. 2020 election: elect 6 seats instead of 7<br>
- Sept. 2020 election: elect 5 seats instead of 6<br>
- Then elect 6 seats at every start-of-year and 5 at every end-of-year<br>
<br>
That would result in TC membership sizes:<br>
<br>
- U cycle (Q4 2019/Q1 2020): 13 members<br>
- V cycle (Q2/Q3 2020): 12 members<br>
- W cycle (Q4 2020/Q1 2021): 11 members<br>
- after that: 11 members<br>
<br>
FWIW, I intend to not run for reelection in the Feb 2020 election, so <br>
nobody else has to sacrifice their seat to that reform for that election :)<br>
<br>
Thoughts?<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Thierry Carrez (ttx)<br>
<br>
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