<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 31, 2019, at 9:52 AM, Mohammed Naser <<a href="mailto:mnaser@vexxhost.com" class="">mnaser@vexxhost.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri., May 31, 2019, 9:49 a.m. Doug Hellmann, <<a href="mailto:doug@doughellmann.com" class="">doug@doughellmann.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Mohammed Naser <<a href="mailto:mnaser@vexxhost.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">mnaser@vexxhost.com</a>> writes:<br class=""><br class="">> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:35 AM Jonathan D. Proulx <<a href="mailto:jon@csail.mit.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">jon@csail.mit.edu</a>> wrote:<br class="">>><br class="">>> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 07:50:45AM -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote:<br class="">>><br class="">>> :My vote is a hard "no" on an openstack-operators/ namespace because I'm<br class="">>> :tired of perpetuating the idea that "operators" cannot (or should not)<br class="">>> :be "contributors" to openstack/. They *must* be contributors, because<br class="">>> :that's the only way open source works over the log term.<br class="">>><br class="">>> what Doug said!<br class="">>><br class="">>> The most important and perhaps most difficult thing in OpenSource is<br class="">>> the bravery to be bad in public. This is why the worst thing in<br class="">>> OpenSource is shaming people for being bad in public.<br class="">><br class="">> That sounds fair. It seems there is significant thoughts from within<br class="">> the community<br class="">> that this should continue to live under the openstack/ namespace.<br class="">><br class="">> How do we make this happen then? I'm struggling to find the correct platform to<br class="">> put this under in order to make this live under openstack/<br class=""><br class="">What part is hard, defining an owner?<br class=""></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Yes. A SIG? A WG?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>I thought we had converted everything that wasn’t a Board working group to a SIG. A SIG seems appropriate for this, in any case.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Doug</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">I'm not sure where to put it under to make it official under OpenStack namespace. </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">I'm happy to hear suggestions</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Doug</blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>