<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi all,</div><div><br></div><div>We (from ZTE) also have a 5 people team to develop with Ceilometer/Aodh in our cloud production.</div><div>We are also happen to support telemetry community when it needs help.</div><div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 6:22 PM Julien Danjou <<a href="mailto:julien@danjou.info">julien@danjou.info</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Tue, Mar 19 2019, Trinh Nguyen wrote:<br>
<br>
Thanks Trinh for your response. This sounds like a great opportunity to<br>
bring new blood to the Telemetry project.<br>
<br>
> Hi Julien, Doug, and others,<br>
><br>
> Thanks for your comments. Your concerns make a lot of sense. I just have a<br>
> couple of thoughts on this.<br>
><br>
> For envisioning Telemetry future, I do need help from existing contributors<br>
> and users. The reasons for me to volunteer are I believe Ceilometer/Aodh is<br>
> still critical for OpenStack and they're embedded in many of other projects<br>
> that I'm working on (Fenix, Tacker, etc.). Also, I wouldn't do this without<br>
> Lingxian and his team expertise. Lingxian could be the great PTL but he's<br>
> too busy with the other two projects (Qinling and Trove) so I want to give<br>
> him a hand.<br>
><br>
> I can see my role as the PTL (just like Searchlight which I never touch<br>
> before becoming its PTL) is a contact point and a coordinator that help to<br>
> push Telemetry toward common goals that the team agreed. Moreover, I do<br>
> believe in PTL's main job is helping and encouraging potential<br>
> contributors. So my main goal for Telemetry in Train is to sustain the<br>
> project with a strong base of contributors and a healthy community until I<br>
> can find a replacement.<br>
><br>
> Bests,<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:52 AM Tim Bell <<a href="mailto:Tim.Bell@cern.ch" target="_blank">Tim.Bell@cern.ch</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> It would be an interesting forum topic for the upcoming Denver summit to<br>
>> understand where we are with Telemetry and potential approaches for the<br>
>> future (Is the Telemetry project the way forward? Is Monasca an potential<br>
>> replacement? Are there alternative approaches which the community should be<br>
>> considering?, ...)<br>
>><br>
>> It's not clear to me what we should be recommending for a new cloud<br>
>> deployment as regards this functional area.<br>
>><br>
>> Tim<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> From: Doug Hellmann <<a href="mailto:doug@doughellmann.com" target="_blank">doug@doughellmann.com</a>><br>
>> Date: Monday, 18 March 2019 at 17:06<br>
>> To: Lingxian Kong <<a href="mailto:anlin.kong@gmail.com" target="_blank">anlin.kong@gmail.com</a>>, Mohammed Naser <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:mnaser@vexxhost.com" target="_blank">mnaser@vexxhost.com</a>><br>
>> Cc: Julien Danjou <<a href="mailto:julien@danjou.info" target="_blank">julien@danjou.info</a>>, Trinh Nguyen <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:dangtrinhnt@gmail.com" target="_blank">dangtrinhnt@gmail.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org</a>" <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [telemetry][ptl][volunteer][tc] Telemetry PTL for Train<br>
>><br>
>> Lingxian Kong <<a href="mailto:anlin.kong@gmail.com" target="_blank">anlin.kong@gmail.com</a>> writes:<br>
>><br>
>> > I was supposed to volunteer myself being Ceilometer PTL because we<br>
>> have<br>
>> > also deployed Ceilometer in production. I haven't contributed<br>
>> Ceilometer<br>
>> > for several dev cycles but I'm familiar with Ceilometer code (and<br>
>> Aodh as<br>
>> > well), and I am an active contributor for OpenStack for 6 years.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Trinh chatted with me in IRC for the same interest in Ceilometer as<br>
>> they<br>
>> > are also using Ceilometer and Aodh in production. I'm very happy he<br>
>> could<br>
>> > help because maybe I'll be too busy with maintaining two other<br>
>> projects. I<br>
>> > (and other developers in our company) can definitely help if needed.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Personally, I think being a PTL not only means the one who has<br>
>> contributed<br>
>> > a lot, but also means the one who is willing to help the project<br>
>> developers<br>
>> > and users, and doing the common tasks in order to coordinate with<br>
>> the whole<br>
>> > community, most importantly, the one who is the real user of a<br>
>> > project.<br>
>><br>
>> I agree, although it is a little concerning that the contributor base<br>
>> for the project is so small.<br>
>><br>
>> I am excited to have new contributors pick the project up, so thank you<br>
>> for volunteering!<br>
>><br>
>> Doug<br>
>><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Cheers,<br>
>> > Lingxian Kong<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 5:31 AM Mohammed Naser <<a href="mailto:mnaser@vexxhost.com" target="_blank">mnaser@vexxhost.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> >> FWIW: Trinh has done an excellent job with Searchlight, so I think<br>
>> the<br>
>> >> project would be in great hands.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> > On Mar 18, 2019, at 12:13 PM, Doug Hellmann <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:doug@doughellmann.com" target="_blank">doug@doughellmann.com</a>><br>
>> >> wrote:<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Julien Danjou <<a href="mailto:julien@danjou.info" target="_blank">julien@danjou.info</a>> writes:<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> >> On Sun, Mar 17 2019, Trinh Nguyen wrote:<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> Hi Trinh,<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >>> Because no one want to nominate for the PTL in Train [1],<br>
>> Telemetry has<br>
>> >> >>> been marked as a leaderless project and may be removed of<br>
>> OpenStack.<br>
>> >> We and<br>
>> >> >>> some companies are still using Ceilometer, AODH (parts of<br>
>> Telemetry)<br>
>> >> so we<br>
>> >> >>> don't want that happen.<br>
>> >> >>><br>
>> >> >>> Lingxian Kong (Trove and Qinling PTL), I (cc Julien Danjou, the<br>
>> >> current PTL<br>
>> >> >>> of Telemetry) had a conversation about this and agree to work<br>
>> together<br>
>> >> to<br>
>> >> >>> maintain the Telemetry projects. So I'm writing this email<br>
>> stating<br>
>> >> that I<br>
>> >> >>> would like to volunteer to be the PTL for Telemetry in Train.<br>
>> >> >>><br>
>> >> >>> Though I haven't been directly involved in the development of<br>
>> Telemetry<br>
>> >> >>> ever, my experience as Searchlight PTL and core in Fenix and<br>
>> Freezer<br>
>> >> give<br>
>> >> >>> me some technical understanding of Telemetry as well as<br>
>> OpenStack<br>
>> >> >>> development procedure. You're in the good hands.<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> I'm glad reading that people are still interested in Telemetry!<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> How do you envision leading a project you never contributed to?<br>
>> I'm<br>
>> >> >> wondering how someone can do that in practice.<br>
>> >> >> Or do you see that just role being a straw-man job to avoid the<br>
>> project<br>
>> >> >> for being tagged as abandoned?<br>
>> >> >><br>
>> >> >> Cheers,<br>
>> >> >> --<br>
>> >> >> Julien Danjou<br>
>> >> >> // Free Software hacker<br>
>> >> >> // <a href="https://julien.danjou.info" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://julien.danjou.info</a><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > Without another volunteer, I'm not sure I see an alternative<br>
>> between<br>
>> >> > shutting the project down and letting someone who has not<br>
>> contributed<br>
>> >> > try to take it over. Do you have something else to propose?<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > --<br>
>> >> > Doug<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >><br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Doug<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
<br>
-- <br>
Julien Danjou<br>
/* Free Software hacker<br>
<a href="https://julien.danjou.info" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://julien.danjou.info</a> */<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">Thanks,<br>Rong Zhu</div></div>