<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Hello All,</span></font></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></font></p><p style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">  This is an email to the OpenStack manila upstream community but anyone can chime in would be great to get some input from other projects and how they organize their upstream defects and what tools they use...</span></font></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></font></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br class="gmail-m_-1256631743348259407m_4683997145228847644gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"> </span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><span class="gmail-m_-1256631743348259407m_4683997145228847644gmail-m_1978806994620843906gmail-Apple-tab-span">   </span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">My goal here is to make the upstream manila bug process easier, cleaner, and more effective. </span></font></p><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><br></font><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">My thoughts to accomplish this are by establishing a process that we can all agree upon. </font></span></p><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><br><br></font><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">   I have the following points/questions that I wanted to address to help create a more effective process:</font></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">   </font></span></p><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:15pt;list-style-type:disc;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">Can we as a group go through some of the manila bugs so we can drive the visible bug count down?</font></span></p></li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:30pt;list-style-type:circle;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">How often as a group do you have bug scrubs?</font></span></p></li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li style="margin-left:30pt;list-style-type:circle;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">Might be beneficial if we had bug scrubs every few months possibly?</font></span></p></li><li style="margin-left:30pt;list-style-type:circle;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">It might be a good idea to go through the current upstream bugs and weed out one that can be closed or invalid.</font></span></p></li></ul><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><br></font><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:15pt;list-style-type:disc;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">When a new bug is logged how to we normally process this bug</font></span></p></li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:30pt;list-style-type:circle;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">How do we handle the importance?</font></span></p></li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:45pt;list-style-type:square;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">When a manila bugs comes into launchpad I am assuming one of the people on this email will set the importance?</font></span></p></li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:45pt;list-style-type:square;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">"Assigned" I will also assume it just picked by the person on this email list.</font></span></p></li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:60pt;list-style-type:disc;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">I am seeing some bugs "fixed committed" with no assignment. How do we know who was working on it?</font></span></p></li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:45pt;list-style-type:square;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">What is the criteria for setting the importance. Do we have a standard understanding of what is CRITICAL or HIGH? </font></span></p></li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:45pt;list-style-type:square;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">If there is a critical or high bug what is the response turn-around? Days or weeks?</font></span></p></li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:60pt;list-style-type:disc;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">I see some defect with HIGH that have not been assigned or looked at in a year?</font></span></p></li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:15pt;list-style-type:disc;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">I understand OpenStack has some long releases  but how long do we normally keep defects around?</font></span></p></li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:30pt;list-style-type:circle;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">Do we have a way to archive bugs that are not looked at? I was told we can possibly set the status of a defect to  “Invalid” or “Opinion” or “Won’t Fix” or “Expired"</font></span></p></li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:30pt;list-style-type:circle;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">Status needs to be something other than "NEW" after the first week</font></span></p></li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:45pt;list-style-type:square;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">How can we have a defect over a year that is NEW?</font></span></p></li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="margin-left:45pt;list-style-type:square;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size:10pt;white-space:pre-wrap">Who is </span><span style="font-size:13.3333px;white-space:pre-wrap">possible</span><span style="font-size:10pt;white-space:pre-wrap"> for see if there is enough information and if the bug is invalid or incomplete and if incomplete ask for relevant information. Do we randomly look at the list </span><span style="font-size:13.3333px;white-space:pre-wrap">daily</span><span style="font-size:10pt;white-space:pre-wrap"> , weekly, or monthly to see if new info is needed?</span></font></font></span></p></li></ul><div><font color="#000000" face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.3333px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></font></div><div><br></div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><br></font><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">I started to create a google sheet [1] to see if it is easier to track some of the defect vs the manila-triage pad[2] . I have added both links here. I </font></span><span style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px;white-space:pre-wrap">know a lot will not have access to this page I am working on transitioning to OpenStack ether cal.</span></p><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><br></font><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">[1] </span><span style="text-decoration-line:underline;font-size:10pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oaXEgo_BEkY2KleISN3M58waqw9U5W7xTR_O1jQmQ74/edit#gid=758082340" target="_blank" style="text-decoration-line:none">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oaXEgo_BEkY2KleISN3M58waqw9U5W7xTR_O1jQmQ74/edit#gid=758082340</a>  </span><span style="font-size:10pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></font></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">[2] </span><a href="https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad" target="_blank" style="text-decoration-line:none"><span style="font-size:10pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;text-decoration-line:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad</span></a><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">  </span></font></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><u style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px;white-space:pre-wrap">[3]</u><span style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px;white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.3333px;white-space:pre-wrap"><a href="https://ethercalc.openstack.org/uc8b4567fpf4">https://ethercalc.openstack.org/uc8b4567fpf4</a> </span><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></font></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><br></p><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><br><br></font><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">I would also like to hear from all of you on what your issues are with the current process for upstream manila bugs using launchpad. I have not had the time to look at storyboard </span><a href="https://storyboard.openstack.org/" target="_blank" style="text-decoration-line:none"><span style="font-size:10pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;text-decoration-line:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">https://storyboard.openstack.org/</span></a><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> but I have heard that the OpenStack community is pushing toward using Storyboard, so I will be looking at that shortly.</span></font></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></font></p><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:13.3333px;white-space:pre-wrap">Any input would be greatly appreciated...</span><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><br></font></div><br><br></font><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">Thanks All,</font></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">Jason Grosso</font></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><font color="#000000" face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt;white-space:pre-wrap">Senior Quality </span><span style="font-size:13.3333px;white-space:pre-wrap">Engineer</span><span style="font-size:10pt;white-space:pre-wrap"> -  Cloud</span></font></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">Red Hat OpenStack Manila</font></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><a href="mailto:jgrosso@redhat.com" target="_blank">jgrosso@redhat.com</a></font></span></p></div></div></div>