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On Tue, 2022-04-26 at 18:43 -0500, Ghanshyam Mann wrote:
>  ---- On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 18:24:49 -0500 Jeremy Stanley <fungi at yuggoth.org> wrote ----
>  > On 2022-04-26 17:46:14 -0500 (-0500), Ghanshyam Mann wrote:
>  > > As you know, in zed cycle we are targeting centos-9-stream in
>  > > testing runtime[1] and dropping the py3.6 support.
>  > [...]
>  > 
>  > Just a reminder, RHEL 9 is still only in beta and I've seen no
>  > indication it will necessarily be released by September, so there's
>  > every chance Zed will not be usable on RHEL at release.
> 
at least from a redhat prodct perspecive redhat does not suppport installing upstream
openstack on rhel so those choosign to install openstack on rhel out side of our productised version
woudl be doing so without support form redhat.

as such i dont think the status of rhel 9 is really a concern here.

redhat is currently workingon our next major version of redhat's openstack plathform (osp 17) which will be based on rhel 9
and will be relased before the zed cycle completes. it will not be based on zed, zed will likely form the basis of osp(18)
which will not be relased this year.

from a rhel 8 perspective python 3.8 was never intended for production deploymetn on python 3.6 was fully productised
and other interperters were only provdied for development and testing but 3.6 was the only fully supproted prodcution runtime.
>  I know that
>  > came up as a reason to keep 3.6 testing the last time we tried to
>  > remove it (for Yoga), so figure it's worth pointing out again.
> 
> Yes, that is a separate discussion and we already discussed it a lot about
> dropping py3.6 in Yoga cycle. We said that time that we would remove the
> support in Zed cycle and so does testing runtime is defined and updated
> on ML also. I did not see any objection to that at least during these two months
> we dropped the testing.
> 
> This discussion is if we want to continue test the centos-8-stream even we dropped
> the py3.6 support which can be done with python 3.8.

i really dont think that adds sginifcant value.

if we were to look at redhat downstream plathform then stable wallaby and zed will both be run on python 3.9 on rhel 9.x
testing with 3.8 wont align with what will be productised. so i think it woudl be better to focus on testign rdo wtih centos 9 stream only
so for master/zed rather then investign effort into 3.8

for what its worth i think centos 8 with 3.8 actully does work today, im pretty sure i have deploy with that combination in the past
i just dont really see that addign a lot of vaule vs ruing a centos 9 stream job with 3.9

ubuntu 20.04 provides 3.8 coverage and the rest is disto/packaging realted so unless rdo or one of the other installers  speciricly
ask for centos 8 stream i dont think we need to keep the nodeset for master.

we do still requrie it for stable branches but for installers like devstack i think its long past time that we pushed people to move
to centos 9 stream instead. or any other recent release fo your prefered distro.
after all upstream we do not test rhel and never have we use centos as a proxy and centos 9 stream is fully relased and ready to use.
> 
> -gmann 
> 
>  > -- 
>  > Jeremy Stanley
>  > 
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