threat to freenode (where openstack irc hangs out)
mnaser at vexxhost.com
Wed May 26 11:34:04 UTC 2021
Yup. I think it’s time to get out. We said we’d move if we’re running into
a problem or changes happen. This is the case now.
I’ve setup a small Google Meet for today to discuss things because quite
honestly, I don’t think the IRC is viable for this discussion in terms of
how urgent this needs to be done and the potential for interruption. The
meeting is in 3 hours exactly.
OpenStack network migration
Wednesday, May 26 · 10:30–11 AM EST
Google Meet joining info
Video call link: https://meet.google.com/xqw-zkhw-wak
Or dial: +1 226-213-8281 PIN: 5116612309845
More phone numbers: https://tel.meet/xqw-zkhw-wak?pin=5116612309845
I would appreciate if our community joined so we can get an actionable plan
as quickly as possible.
Thanks for everyone’s comments and I hope that we’re going to have a lot of
hands to help us, because there will be a non trivial amount of work and a
few decisions to be made.
I’ll add an etherpad for this discussion shortly.
On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 7:20 AM Dmitry Tantsur <dtantsur at redhat.com> wrote:
> On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 8:44 AM Cédric Jeanneret <cjeanner at redhat.com>
>> Hello all,
>> I think we shouldn't let this one die in silence. Apparently, new
>> policies are being enforcing within Freenode and, if by mistake, a
>> channel promotes another IRC network in their topic, they will be taken
>> by freenode staff - meaning loss of rights, loss of ownership, and topic
>> will be changed.
> FYI #rdo fell victim to this and is now on Libera.
>> that's not what we can call "foss supporting" anymore imho. (Though,
>> apparently, this was due to some miscommunication - so long for the
>> transparency, stability and so on.)
>> Reading the «explanation» on both sides, as well as latest
>> freenode communication, I'd rather go for the OFTC thing, since it's
>> (really) independent of the whole thing.
>> True freenode is (was?) a central player for FOSS communities. But with
>> all the screaming around, it might get harder to stick with them.
>> weird use of our data (that is, as of 2021-05-26, 08:30am CET). Maybe a
>> false flag? We'll probably never really know, but checking that privacy
>> policy and related contents evolution might provide a good hint.
>> Some of the other communities I'm following have implemented a bridge
>> bot, basically copy-pasting content from one network to another. That
>> way, ppl could be on OFTC (or anywhere else where we have a foot on),
>> while primary thing would stick to freenode (and thus allowing a clean
>> My 2c ;).
>>  https://freenode.net/news/freenode-is-foss
>>  https://libera.chat/news/welcome-to-libera-chat
>>  https://freenode.net/news/for-foss
>>  https://freenode.net/policies
>> On 5/14/21 5:05 PM, Chris Morgan wrote:
>> > https://twitter.com/dmsimard/status/1393203159770804225?s=20
>> > <https://twitter.com/dmsimard/status/1393203159770804225?s=20>
>> > https://p.haavard.me/407 <https://p.haavard.me/407>
>> > I have no independent validation of this.
>> > Chris
>> > --
>> > Chris Morgan <mihalis68 at gmail.com <mailto:mihalis68 at gmail.com>>
>> Cédric Jeanneret (He/Him/His)
>> Sr. Software Engineer - OpenStack Platform
>> Deployment Framework TC
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