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On Wed, 2021-01-06 at 13:43 +0100, Slawek Kaplonski wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Dnia środa, 6 stycznia 2021 13:00:31 CET Herve Beraud pisze:
> > Hello everyone,
> > 
> > Here is an email to officialize our position on Olso concerning our
> > lower-constraints testing policy.
> > Indeed we reached a consensus during our last meeting and all the Oslo
> > cores who spoke agreed with this decision to drop the L.C tests [1].
> > 
> > So we already started to drop lower-constraints jobs on Oslo to unlock our
> > gates.
> 
> Sorry if my question shouldn't be in that thread but does that mean that other 
> projects should/can drop lower constraints jobs too? Is it some general, 
> OpenStack wide decision or it depends on the project?
lower constratis is not a required part fo the PTI
https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/pti/python.html
https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/project-testing-interface.html
so its technially a per project desision as far as i am aware.

while project were encouraged to adopt lower constratit testing we did not require all project
to provide it and i belive there are some that dont unless im mistaken.

so neutron could drop lc testing too i belive if it desired too.
unless im misinterperting things

> 
> > 
> > Thanks to everyone who joined the discussion and thanks for reading!
> > 
> > [1]
> > http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2021/oslo.2021-01-04-16.00.log.
> > txt #topic Dropping lower-constraints testing
> > 
> > Le ven. 18 déc. 2020 à 20:34, Moises Guimaraes de Medeiros <
> > 
> > moguimar at redhat.com> a écrit :
> > > +1
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:46 PM Ghanshyam Mann <gmann at ghanshyammann.com>
> > > 
> > > wrote:
> > > >  ---- On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 08:54:26 -0600 hberaud <hberaud at redhat.com>
> > > > 
> > > > wrote ----
> > > > 
> > > >  > Hello,
> > > >  > As you already surely know, we (the openstack project) currently face
> > > > 
> > > > some issues with our lower-constraints jobs due to pip's latest  resolver
> > > > feature.
> > > > 
> > > >  > By discussing this topic with Thierry Carrez (ttx) from an oslo point
> > > > 
> > > > of view, we reached the same conclusion that it is more appropriate to
> > > > drop
> > > > this kind of tests because the complexity and recurring pain neededto
> > > > maintain them now exceeds the benefits provided by this mechanismes.
> > > > 
> > > >  > Also we should notice that the number of active maintainers is
> > > > 
> > > > declining, so we think that this is the shortest path to solve this
> > > > problem
> > > > on oslo for now and for the future too.
> > > > 
> > > >  > In a first time I tried to fix our gates by fixing our
> > > > 
> > > > lower-constraints project by project but with around ~36 projects to
> > > > maintain this is a painful task, especially due to nested oslo layers
> > > > inside oslo himself... I saw the face of the hell of dependencies.
> > > > 
> > > >  > So, in a second time I submitted a series of patches to drop these
> > > > 
> > > > tests [1].
> > > > 
> > > >  > But before moving further with that we would appreciate discussing
> > > > 
> > > > this with the TC. For now the patches are ready and we just have to push
> > > > the good button accordingly to our choices (+W or abandon).
> > > > 
> > > >  > Normally all the oslo projects that need to be fixed are covered by
> > > > 
> > > > [1].
> > > > 
> > > >  > Thoughts?
> > > > 
> > > > +1, I think it's not worth to keep maintaining them which is taking too
> > > > much effort.
> > > > 
> > > > -gmann
> > > > 
> > > >  > Thanks for reading.
> > > >  > 
> > > >  > [1]
> > > > 
> > > > https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22oslo_lc_drop%22+(status:open%20OR%2
> > > > 0status:merged)>> 
> > > >  > --
> > > >  > Hervé BeraudSenior Software Engineer at Red Hatirc: hberaudhttps://
> > > > 
> > > > github.com/4383/https://twitter.com/4383hberaud
> > > > 
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> > > --
> > > 
> > > Moisés Guimarães
> > > 
> > > Software Engineer
> > > 
> > > Red Hat <https://www.redhat.com>
> > > 
> > > <https://red.ht/sig>
> > 
> > --
> > Hervé Beraud
> > Senior Software Engineer at Red Hat
> > irc: hberaud
> > https://github.com/4383/
> > https://twitter.com/4383hberaud
> 
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