Where to send mascot graphic adjustment proposals

Michael Chapman michapma at redhat.com
Wed Nov 18 14:53:26 UTC 2020


James,

Thanks for the help, I'll have a chat with the other Designate folks on IRC
to see if there's much interest and we'll go from there.

 - Michael

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 4:30 AM James Cole <james at openstack.org> wrote:

> Hey Michael,
>
> I asked around and doesn’t look like we've previously been asked to edit a
> mascot after it’s initial creation, so there’s no specific process in place
> currently. You’re blazing a new trail here!
>
> We definitely want to gather consensus from project contributors before
> making changes. The best way to do that would be the openstack-discuss
> mailing list with [designate] in the subject line of any messages—as
> documented here
> <https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/open-community.html#mailing-lists>.
> Adding the tag should help other designate contributors notice and respond
> with their input.
>
> If you can gather consensus there, you would then email
> community at openinfra.dev regarding the change.
>
> So the process would be: propose change via mailing lists => gather
> consensus => contact the foundation.
>
> And thanks again for flagging the broken email address and the alignment
> issue on the page.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> -James
>
>
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:36 AM, Michael Chapman <michapma at redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Hi James
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 4:26 AM James Cole <james at openstack.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> I’m James Cole, a graphic designer at the Open Infrastructure Foundation.
>> Hopefully I can address some of your questions.
>>
>> Regarding the diagram, I’m told it is managed by Designate in their
>> documentation. We can provide suggestions but ultimately it is up to them
>> how they want to create those docs. You may have to get in touch with an
>> active contributor to that project.
>>
>>
> I might not have explained this well, I am currently preparing an updated
> version of the diagram and am a Designate contributor.
>
>
>> Regarding mascot design changes, we’d need broader community input to
>> make edits like that. The mascot designs undergo a community review
>> process with each project when they’re created, so we’re unable to make
>> design changes at this time.
>>
>
> Can you be more specific on how the community can provide that input? Is
> there a repo I can propose changes against?
>
>
>> If it helps, the mark is vertically aligned with the text, not base
>> aligned. Enlarging the crocodile will probably make it seem
>> disproportionately large compared with other project mascots, which all
>> follow the same design rules.
>>
>
> I think what I'm saying is I don't think vertical alignment makes sense
> with such a strong horizontal line at the base of the logo. Maybe in the
> context of a group of mascots + text having all of them vertically aligned
> looks less strange but on its own I think it would look better aligned to
> the base.
>
> Ultimately if it's not possible to change this I can always use the
> vertical logo + text instead, but I thought I'd see if it could be improved
> first.
>
>
>> Thanks for flagging the inactive email address for Anne. Would you mind
>> providing the URL of the page you found that address? We will replace it
>> with community at openinfra.dev as the contact email for mascots.
>>
>> https://www.openstack.org/project-mascots/ right down the bottom
>
> On a related note I had a look at
> https://www.openstack.org/software/project-navigator/openstack-components#openstack-services
> and the designate entry there doesn't seem to be centered vertically and
> might need some attention as well.
>
> Thanks for reaching out!
>>
>
>
> Thanks for the detailed response!
>
>  - Michael
>
>
>>
>> *James Cole*
>> Graphic Designer
>> Open Infrastructure Foundation
>>
>>
>>
>
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