[tc][ops] reviving osops- repos

Erik McCormick emccormick at cirrusseven.com
Fri May 31 14:24:36 UTC 2019

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 9:54 AM Mohammed Naser <mnaser at vexxhost.com> wrote:
> On Fri., May 31, 2019, 9:49 a.m. Doug Hellmann, <doug at doughellmann.com> wrote:
>> Mohammed Naser <mnaser at vexxhost.com> writes:
>> > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:35 AM Jonathan D. Proulx <jon at csail.mit.edu> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 07:50:45AM -0400, Doug Hellmann wrote:
>> >>
>> >> :My vote is a hard "no" on an openstack-operators/ namespace because I'm
>> >> :tired of perpetuating the idea that "operators" cannot (or should not)
>> >> :be "contributors" to openstack/. They *must* be contributors, because
>> >> :that's the only way open source works over the log term.
>> >>
>> >> what Doug said!
>> >>
>> >> The most important and perhaps most difficult thing in OpenSource is
>> >> the bravery to be bad in public. This is why the worst thing in
>> >> OpenSource is shaming people for being bad in public.
>> >
>> > That sounds fair.  It seems there is significant thoughts from within
>> > the community
>> > that this should continue to live under the openstack/ namespace.
>> >
>> > How do we make this happen then?  I'm struggling to find the correct platform to
>> > put this under in order to make this live under openstack/
>> What part is hard, defining an owner?
> Yes.  A SIG?  A WG?
> I'm not sure where to put it under to make it official under OpenStack namespace.
> I'm happy to hear suggestions
Back in the old days (*shakes cane at you kids on his lawn*) when
these repos were started, there really weren't WGs or SIGs. There were
projects. So there's a project [1].

So either:
A) Make a SIG out of that and assign the repos to the sig, or
B) Maybe add it under / rename the Ops Docs SIG [2] as it might bring
more eyes to both things which serve the same folks.

I personally don't care about the location for the sake of feeling
"included." A repo is a repo to me. However, from a marketing
standpoint, I think having it in openstack/ would increase the
visibility and garner both more contributors and users.

We currently talk about Ops Docs things during the Ops Meetup team
meeting on Tuesdays at 10am EDT (15:00 UTC), so if anyone would like
to discuss this as an agenda item during that meeting I can add it to
the agenda. Let me know if there's interest.

[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Osops
[2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Operation_Docs_SIG

>> --
>> Doug

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