[oslo][all] Ending courtesy pings

Jim Rollenhagen jim at jimrollenhagen.com
Tue May 14 17:32:49 UTC 2019

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 1:04 PM Ben Nemec <openstack at nemebean.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> We discussed this some in the Oslo meeting yesterday[0], and I wanted to
> send a followup because there wasn't universal support for it.
> One of the outcomes of the PTL tips and tricks session in Denver was
> that courtesy pings like we use in the Oslo meeting are considered bad
> IRC etiquette. The recommendation was for interested parties to set up
> custom highlights on the "#startmeeting oslo" (or whichever meeting)
> command. Also, there is an ics file available on eavesdrop[1] that can
> be used to import the meeting to your calendaring app of choice. I
> should note that I don't seem to be able to configure notifications on
> the imported calendar entry in Google calendar though, so I'm not sure
> how useful this is as a reminder.
> A couple of concerns were raised yesterday. One was that people didn't
> know how to configure their IRC client to do this. Once you do configure
> it, there's a testing problem in that you don't get notified of your own
> messages, so you basically have to wait for the next meeting and hope
> you got it right. Or pull someone into a private channel and have them
> send a startmeeting command, which is a hassle. It isn't terribly
> complicated, but if it isn't tested then it's assumed broken. :-)
> The other concern was that this process would have to be done any time
> someone changes IRC clients, whereas the ping list was a central thing
> that always applies no matter where you're connecting from.
> Anyway, I said I would send an email out for further public discussion,
> and this is it. I'm interested to hear people's thoughts.

I'd argue that as long as people opt in to a courtesy ping, and have a
clear way to opt out, then the courtesy ping is not bad etiquette.

It would be great if folks managed their own meeting reminders, but
if they appreciate a ping at the start of the meeting, I see no reason
not to do that.

// jim

> Thanks.
> -Ben
> 0:
> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2019/oslo.2019-05-13-15.00.log.html#l-44
> 1: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Oslo_Team_Meeting
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