[SIG][WG] Shanghai PTG Changes

Kendall Nelson kennelson11 at gmail.com
Wed Jun 12 18:03:55 UTC 2019


The whole event will be 5 days. Monday to Friday.

-Kendall (diablo_rojo)

On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 12:50 AM Dmitry Tantsur <dtantsur at redhat.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Thank you for the update!
>
> Could you please clarify how many days the whole event will take in the
> end, 5 or 6?
>
> Dmitry
>
> On 6/12/19 12:56 AM, Kendall Nelson wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> > After Denver we were able to take time to reflect on the improvements we
> can
> > make now that the PTG will occur immediately following the summit for
> the near
> > future.While Shanghai will have its own set of variables, it's still
> good to
> > reevaluate how we allocate time for groups and how we structure the week
> overall.
> >
> > tldr;
> >
> > - No BoFs, try to focus more specific discussions into topics for the
> Forum and
> > follow up with PTG slot for more general conversations
> > - PTG slots can be as short as 1/4 of a day
> > - More shared space at the Shanghai venue, less dedicated space
> > - New breakdown: 1.5 days of Forum and 3.5 days of PTG
> > - Survey will be out in a few weeks for requesting PTG space
> >
> > For many of you (and myself as FC SIG Chair) there were a lot of
> different ways
> > to get time to talk about topics. There was the forum, there were BoF
> sessions
> > you could request, and there was also the option of having PTG sessions.
> Using
> > the FC SIG as an example, we had two forum sessions (I think?), a BoF,
> and a
> > half day at the PTG. This was WAY too much time for us. We didn't
> realize it
> > when we were asking for space all the different ways, but we ended up
> with a lot
> > of redundant discussions and time in which we didn't do much but just
> chat
> > (which was great, but not the best use of the time/space since we could
> have
> > done thatin a hallway and not a dedicated room).
> >
> > To account for thisduplication, we are going to get rid of the BoF
> mechanism for
> > asking for space since largely the topics discussed there could be more
> cleanly
> > divided into feedback focused Forum sessions and PTG team discussion
> time. The
> > tentative plan is to try to condense as many of the SIG/WGs PTG slots
> towards
> > the start of the PTG as we can so that theywill more or less immediately
> follow
> > the forum so that you can focus on making action items out of the
> conversations
> > had and the feedback received at the Forum.
> >
> > We will also offer a smaller granularity of time that you can request at
> the
> > PTG. Previously, a half day slot was as small as you could request; this
> time we
> > will be offering 1/4 day slots (we found with more than one SIG/WG that
> even at
> > a half day they were done in an hour and a half with all that they
> needed to
> > talk about).
> >
> > The venue itself (similar to Denver) will have a few large rooms for
> bigger
> > teams to meet, however, most teams will meet in shared space. That being
> said,
> > we willadd to the PTGbot more clearly defined locations in the shared
> space so
> > its easier to find groups in shared spaces.
> >
> > I regret to inform you that, again, projection will be a very limited
> commodity.
> > Yeah.. please don't shoot the messenger. Due to using mainly shared
> space,
> > projectionis just something we are not able to offer.
> >
> > The other change I haven't already mentioned is that we are going to
> have the
> > PTG start a half day early. Instead of only being 3 days like in Denver,
> we are
> > going to add more time to the PTG and subtract a half day from the
> Forum.
> > Basically the breakdown will be 1.5 Forum and 3.5 PTG with the Summit
> > overlapping the first two days.
> >
> > I will be sending the PTG survey out to SIG Chairs/ WG Leads in a couple
> weeks
> > with a few changes.
> >
> > -Kendall Nelson (diablo_rojo)
> >
> >
>
>
>
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