<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">On Mar 16, 2018, at 6:08 PM, Mohammed Naser <<a href="mailto:mnaser@vexxhost.com" class="">mnaser@vexxhost.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 5:34 PM, Jeremy Stanley <<a href="mailto:fungi@yuggoth.org" class="">fungi@yuggoth.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 2018-03-16 21:22:51 +0000 (+0000), Jim Rollenhagen wrote:<br class="">[...]<br class="">It seems mod_wsgi doesn't want python applications catching SIGHUP,<br class="">as Apache expects to be able to catch that. By default, it even ensures<br class="">signal handlers do not get registered.[0]<br class=""></blockquote>[...]<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Given we just had a goal to make all API services runnable as a WSGI<br class="">application, it seems wrong to enable mutable config for API services.<br class="">It's a super useful thing though, so I'd love to figure out a way we can do<br class="">it.<br class=""></blockquote>[...]<br class=""><br class="">Given these are API services, can the APIs grow a (hopefully<br class="">standardized) method to trigger this in lieu of signal handling? Or<br class="">if the authentication requirements are too much, Zuul and friends<br class="">have grown RPC sockets which can be used to inject these sorts of<br class="">low-level commands over localhost to their service daemons (or could<br class="">probably also do similar things over UNIX sockets if you don't want<br class="">listeners on the loopback interface).<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Throwing an idea out there, but maybe listening to file modification<br class="">events using something like inotify could be a possibility?<br class=""></blockquote><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline !important; float: none;" class="">Both of those are good ideas. I believe adding those things to oslo.service would make them available to all applications.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: BitstreamVeraSansMono-Roman; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">--<br class="">Jeremy Stanley<br class=""><br class="">__________________________________________________________________________<br class="">OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)<br class="">Unsubscribe: <a href="mailto:OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org" class="">OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org</a>?subject:unsubscribe<br class=""><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev" class="">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev</a><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">__________________________________________________________________________<br class="">OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)<br class="">Unsubscribe: <a href="mailto:OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org" class="">OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org</a>?subject:unsubscribe<br class=""><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev" class="">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev</a></blockquote></body></html>