<div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>thank you all for your replies.</div><div><br></div><div>AFAIU the consensus is leaning towards option 1, so I've proposed a patch to governance that adds networking-generic-switch under ironic:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521894/">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521894/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>(not actually sure how that works / being decided on from TC side, but will see :) )</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Ruby Loo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:opensrloo@gmail.com" target="_blank">opensrloo@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 4:41 AM, Shivanand Tendulker <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stendulker@gmail.com" target="_blank">stendulker@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Thank you. I too vote for 'Option 1'.<div><br></div><div>Thanks and Regards</div><div>Shiv<br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_-6658363969287997846gmail-h5">On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 1:03 AM, Villalovos, John L <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:john.l.villalovos@intel.com" target="_blank">john.l.villalovos@intel.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_-6658363969287997846gmail-h5">
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<b>Subject:</b> [openstack-dev] [ironic] inclusion of openstack/networking-generic-s<wbr>witch project under OpenStack baremetal program<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">as this topic it was recently brought up in ironic IRC meeting, I'd like to start a discussion on the subject.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A quick recap - networking-generic-switch project (n-g-s) was born out of necessity to do two things:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- test the "network isolation for baremetal nodes" (a.k.a. multi-tenancy) feature of ironic on upstream gates in virtualized environment and <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- do the same on cheap/simple/dumb hardware switches that are not supported by other various openstack/networking-* projects.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Back when it was created AFAIR neutron governance (neutron stadium) was under some changes, so in the end n-g-s ended up not belonging to any official program.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Over time n-g-s grew to be an essential part of ironic gate testing (similar to virtualbmc). What's more, we have reports that it is already being used in production.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Currently the core reviewers team of n-g-s consists of 4 people (2 of those are currently core reviewers in ironic too), all of them are working for the same company (Mirantis). This poses some risk as companies and people come and go,
plus since some voting ironic gate jobs depend on n-g-s stability, a more diverse group of core reviewers from baremetal program might be beneficial to be able to land patches in case of severe gate troubles.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Currently I know of 3 proposed ways to change the current situation:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1) include n-g-s under ironic (OpenStack Baremetal program) governance, effectively including ironic-core team to the core team of n-g-s similar to how ironic-inspector currently governed (keeping an extended sub-core team). Reasoning
for addition is the same as with virtualbmc/sushy projects, with the debatable difference that the actual scope of n-g-s is quite bigger and apparently includes production use-cases;<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2) keep things as they are now, just add ironic-stable-maint team to the n-g-s core reviewers to decrease low diversity risks;<u></u><u></u></p>
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<br></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div><div> I'm good with 1 or 2. Since we have two 1's and no nays (so far), let's go with 1 and move on :)</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for bringing this up!</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>--ruby</div></font></span></div></div></div>
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<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Dr. Pavlo Shchelokovskyy<div>Senior Software Engineer</div><div>Mirantis Inc</div><div><a href="http://www.mirantis.com" target="_blank">www.mirantis.com</a></div></div></div></div></div>
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