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link btw. That's where Petr and I were initially collaborating. I've
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draft is really good! It reflects very well what we said we would<br>do
at the PTG, way to go.<br><br>I think the next steps would be:<br>-
Definition of Done, or how you consider something achieved (code<br>merged,
doc published, etc).<br>- Metrics: what metrics do you use to measure
what you're delivering.<br></div></div></blockquote>
For the DoD and Metrics our understanding of the task was that they
should be built into the Evidence of Success, though I think we could
still use some more specific metrics in certain spots. Emilien, would
you suggest we define these as separate line items as well?<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
Jimmy<br>
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<div>- What do you expect by end of Queens (put some number in
metrics is<br>probably a good start) - it's already mentioned in your
draft vision<br>but it might be revisited once you define the 2 previous
items.<br><br>Good work!<br></div>
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<div class="__pbConvBody" __pbrmquotes="true"
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bit of progress on
the collaborative vision for the Docs
team:
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<br>This still needs plenty of work, but I wanted to put out what we
have so
we can start to get some feedback from other members of the Docs team.
The Use Cases section in particular was really vast and hard to cut down
into prose without getting too detailed.
<br>
<br>Welcome your feedback and input!
<br>
<br>Thanks,
<br>Jimmy
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<div style="color:#909AA4;margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px;"
__pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody"><div><!----><br>The draft is
really good! It reflects very well what we said we would<br>do at the
PTG, way to go.<br><br>I think the next steps would be:<br>- Definition
of Done, or how you consider something achieved (code<br>merged, doc
published, etc).<br>- Metrics: what metrics do you use to measure what
you're delivering.<br>- What do you expect by end of Queens (put some
number in metrics is<br>probably a good start) - it's already mentioned
in your draft vision<br>but it might be revisited once you define the 2
previous items.<br><br>Good work!<br></div></div>
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style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:48%;text-align:
right;"> <font color="#909AA4"><span style="padding-left:6px">October
4, 2017 at 10:46 AM</span></font></div> </div></div>
<div style="color:#909AA4;margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px;"
__pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody">I've made a bit of progress on
the collaborative vision for the Docs
team:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xy78CnmnKlQ7SbR1XewqgrUdGe7DqnKAGYw_9aj5Ndg/edit#">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xy78CnmnKlQ7SbR1XewqgrUdGe7DqnKAGYw_9aj5Ndg/edit#</a>
<br>
<br>This still needs plenty of work, but I wanted to put out what we
have so
we can start to get some feedback from other members of the Docs team.
The Use Cases section in particular was really vast and hard to cut down
into prose without getting too detailed.
<br>
<br>Welcome your feedback and input!
<br>
<br>Thanks,
<br>Jimmy
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